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On 13 September 2017 at 18:08:26, Torsten Bergmann (asta...@gmx.de) wrote: Hi all, as you know Denis Kudriashov does a fantastic job in implementing the new Calypso system browser. The plan is that at some point in time will be a replacement for Nautilus in the standard image. Even if not yet integrated one can already use it (either by loading from catalog or github [1]) For me the more I use it (and get used to it) the more I like Calypso and I guess others enjoy it too already. But unfortunately there is a single but very prominently visible UI thing that I dislike on the current look: For the "Pharo3Theme" (light theme) the current implementation of Calypso has a white toolbar in the middle and a white status bar at the bottom. Technically Dennis sets the colors of these morphs to transparent to have this effect (see LEFT example of the attached screenshot) To me this lookes strange and unusual because - usually (on Windows, GTK, Java Swing, Linux window managers) such areas like a status bar follow the window color and are displayed in gray when that is the default window theme color (see [2], [3], [4]) - these white bars would better fit for the "Glamorous Whitespace" theme (as this theme is already more white areas) Also the current white bars do not make a pleasant contrast to the other panes of Calypso: - there is not really a visual distinction to the package/class/protocol-tag/method panes and filters for the middle part (toolbar) - there is not really a visual distinction from the code pane for the bottom part (statusbar) - the divider line in the code pane just stops in a white area without borders To me this looks rather ugly and I would like Pharo to look more professional and clean ;) So I proposed a simple PR [5] today to change this and technically using the window color of the theme - the result can be seen on the right side of the attached screenshot and discussed with Denis on Discord. Denis on the other hand still likes the white approach on the left more while I prefer the right one. He wrote that he wants other people comment on this issue first to which I agree and therefore I write this mail to discuss it here on the dev-list and find out about what the majority in the community prefers. So it would be good if others could - comment about their personal preference - or just vote with "LEFT" (white/transparent) or "RIGHT" (window color) in reply to this mail - or make another proposal (which is only accepted with screenshot and PR ;) Also please do not mix other UI discussions into this thread. Thanks in advance! Bye T. [1] https://github.com/dionisiydk/Calypso [2] http://cdn.osxdaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/show-status-bar-and-disk-space-lion.jpg [3] http://i.stack.imgur.com/pgt5n.png [4] http://python.zirael.org/gtk-statusbar1-1.png [5] https://github.com/dionisiydk/Calypso/pull/91