About the application builder we will continue to work on the effort and lamrc is interested to show that we can build real applications with Pharo. So I really hope that something will happen this year.
Stef On Mon, Dec 25, 2017 at 3:58 PM, Stephane Ducasse <[email protected]> wrote: > On Mon, Dec 25, 2017 at 2:17 PM, Torsten Bergmann <[email protected]> wrote: >> A GUI builder is always a nice thing ... and there already was an attempt >> for Pharo: >> >> http://www.squeaksource.com/UIBuilder/ >> >> Now marked as "Failed attempt of develop a UI builder for Pharo-Smalltalk. >> That version >> only works in Pharo 1.1. Is opened for any developer.". >> >> Dont know why it failed ... maybe because the UI (especially with Morphic >> legacy) >> is still too shaky are in Pharo. > > The developer stopped when he saw that he could not build a excel like grid. > I tried to rescue its effort but it was too large to recover. > > >> But I guess the order will be/needs to be: >> >> - good and stable graphics framework (maybe solved with Bloc) >> - good and stable standardized widget set (maybe solved with Brick) >> - then place a UI builder on top of it >> >> Bye >> T. >> >>> Gesendet: Montag, 25. Dezember 2017 um 12:33 Uhr >>> Von: Hilaire <[email protected]> >>> An: [email protected] >>> Betreff: Re: [Pharo-dev] New Year Wishlist (2018) ? >>> >>> Oh, you asked for that Esteban :) >>> >>> 1. stability >>> >>> 2. Tonel is a nice way to export file (its granularity is just right, >>> bravo Esteban!) and commit to arbitrary repository, experimenting it >>> with DrGeo, and it is nice to commit code[1] along other data files of >>> the project (graphics, doc, translation, etc.). Got some an when non >>> ascii characters were present in the source code, people reported it >>> there. Likely to be fixed :) >>> >>> 3. vectorial interface, oh already on its way >>> >>> 4. application builder. Smalltalk/X has a GUI to build a standalone >>> application, was not able to get it working, but it probably worked at >>> some time in the past (see screenshot). Such a feature in Pharo will be >>> fantastic, and likely a kill feature for the ones developing stand alone >>> application; yes there are still some ;-) >>> >>> 5. fulfill the promise of tiny image, aka bootstrap and 4. >>> >>> All these wishes are under construction, so likely to happen \o/ >>> >>> >>> I have personal three wishes (beside good health of course), sharing it >>> in case others are interested to hack on it too: >>> >>> A. get DrGeo working on P7, particularly on the bootstrap process. >>> >>> B. Build an environment in Pharo to develop simple games, targeted for >>> kids. There are some teenagers in my school likely to get interested on >>> such courses. If it could result in standalone games build thanks to >>> wish 4., so good. >>> >>> C. Develop a white board application, easy to extend to add third party >>> features. The OpenBoard[2] we are using in school are merely goods >>> (can't get the right tooling to do geometry for example), handwriting is >>> not nice, hacking on it is super complicated (C++ code), not to mention >>> the building process. A Pharo based one will be fantastic and much easy >>> to hack. >>> >>> >>> Have a nice Christmas! >>> >>> >>> [1] >>> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~drgeo-developers/drgeo/trunk/files/head:/src/ >>> [2] http://openboard.ch >>> >>> Le 23/12/2017 à 17:58, Esteban Lorenzano a écrit : >>> > So, let’s those wishes come! >>> >>> -- >>> Dr. Geo >>> http://drgeo.eu >>> >>> >>
