Hi, > On Jan 21, 2018, at 10:37 PM, Ben Coman <b...@openinworld.com> wrote: > > On 21 January 2018 at 23:55, Tudor Girba <tu...@tudorgirba.com> wrote: >> Hi, >> >> There is a difference in performance. The Announcement is slower (about 2-3x >> slower). However, for 1M events the difference is measured in a 200-400ms, >> which is very small. > > So you mean each event <1ms difference? > btw, what is the biggest usage of events? I guess mouse movements? > How many such events typically in 1 second of movement? > How is performance on StackInterpreter VM? > I guess we should keep that performant for platforms lacking JIT like > iPads, etc…
It depends on the scene. We are still looking into how to evaluate this. That’s why we still have both implementations around. >> The benefit of using Announcement is that we can reuse the tooling around >> Announcement, such as blogging and debugging. > > This looks really useful. Can you describe the difference between the > red and blue lines in the picture of the first link? Each event goes through two passes, like in JavaScript: - The first is called “capturing” (or filtering) and goes from the root to the leaf. This is to allow a parent to prevent a child to react to an event. - The second one is called “bubbling” (or handling) and goes from the leaf to the root. This is to find the most specific element to handle the event. Cheers, Tudor > cheers -ben > >> >> Still, the way it is used in Bloc is different from the typical usage in >> that Bloc registers to all Events (which are Announcements) and then >> dispatches through them to specific Element method (like >> BlEventListener>>clickEvent:). Still the cool thing is that you also can >> still register from the outside to a specific event using a normal when:do:. >> >> We will write a piece of doc about it. >> >> Cheers, >> Tudor >> >> >>> On Jan 21, 2018, at 4:46 PM, Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.duca...@inria.fr> >>> wrote: >>> >>> this looks really cool. >>> For the event I remember the discussion with glenn about the difference and >>> I forgot. >>> >>> Stef >>> >>>> On 21 Jan 2018, at 15:54, Tudor Girba <tu...@tudorgirba.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> Here is an update of the work on Bloc and GT. As always, please do let us >>>> know what you think. >>>> >>>> Bloc: >>>> - Eventing saw a deep overhaul. They are now dispatched using the >>>> Announcements engine. The previous mechanism is still in place in order to >>>> help people compare the impact. In the process, we also cleaned the >>>> propagation of events, and we made them debuggable through inspector >>>> extensions: >>>> https://twitter.com/feenkcom/status/955086133519618048 >>>> https://twitter.com/feenkcom/status/946482609680539649 >>>> - Embedding Bloc elements in Morphic is even easier now: >>>> https://twitter.com/feenkcom/status/946676667002556416 >>>> - We continued the work towards an interactive creation of a graphical >>>> scene: >>>> https://twitter.com/feenkcom/status/948492946541858816 >>>> - Theme experiment >>>> >>>> GT: >>>> - The documentation of Mondrian is available when you download the code >>>> and can be viewed using GT Documenter: >>>> https://twitter.com/feenkcom/status/939394586115563520 >>>> - The Mondrian extensions of BlElement are now extracted in a more general >>>> package that enables Bloc elements to be used in graph scenes. >>>> >>>> Have fun, >>>> The feenk team >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> www.tudorgirba.com >>>> www.feenk.com >>>> >>>> "Obvious things are difficult to teach." >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>> moose-...@list.inf.unibe.ch >>>> https://www.list.inf.unibe.ch/listinfo/moose-dev >>> >>> -------------------------------------------- >>> Stéphane Ducasse >>> http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr >>> http://www.synectique.eu / http://www.pharo.org >>> 03 59 35 87 52 >>> Assistant: Julie Jonas >>> FAX 03 59 57 78 50 >>> TEL 03 59 35 86 16 >>> S. Ducasse - Inria >>> 40, avenue Halley, >>> Parc Scientifique de la Haute Borne, Bât.A, Park Plaza >>> Villeneuve d'Ascq 59650 >>> France >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Moose-dev mailing list >>> moose-...@list.inf.unibe.ch >>> https://www.list.inf.unibe.ch/listinfo/moose-dev >> >> -- >> www.tudorgirba.com >> www.feenk.com >> >> "Beauty is where we see it." >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Moose-dev mailing list >> moose-...@list.inf.unibe.ch >> https://www.list.inf.unibe.ch/listinfo/moose-dev > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > moose-...@list.inf.unibe.ch > https://www.list.inf.unibe.ch/listinfo/moose-dev -- www.tudorgirba.com www.feenk.com "Every thing should have the right to be different."
