My last point on it. if the philosophy is "I do not care about my software, but you have to do it" then do not count me in.
Stef On Sat, Sep 29, 2018 at 12:47 PM Stephane Ducasse <[email protected]> wrote: > > You see you won. Guille removed its repo and I understand him. > I will now count how many months it will take for having artefact > working in P7. > > > > Peter when I say that I do not have time, I really mean it. I have two > reports to write for end of september. > Not counting that updated pharo by example could be build anymore and > that we need it for the mooc starting > 8th of october, not counting that we have 4 new people arriving in the > team and many many other things. > > Stef > On Sat, Sep 29, 2018 at 12:41 PM Peter Uhnak <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Hi Stef, > > > > I understand that everyone is short on time, but I consider not preserving > > the history problematic for two reasons > > > > * it is appropriating someone else's work as one's own -- this seems > > borderline illegal, or at the very least in violation of MIT license > > * it is sending bad signals to potential contributors that we can scrub > > them anytime we want > > > > as you yourself have said: > > > @People try to avoid to piss on good will of others. > > Yet this is what it feels like to some when traces of their contributions > > are voided. > > > > I've invested a ton of time to alleviate this process as much as possible, > > and I can tell you for a fact that people are _really_ happy that the > > authorship is preserved. > > Not to mention that the history itself is valuable if you know how to use > > it (and I very regularly look when a particular piece of code was written > > when debugging issues). > > > > That being said, if you have issues with migrating or think that it can be > > streamlined even further, > > please let me know and I'd be happy to help you or streamline the tool even > > further. > > > > Peter > > > > On Sat, Sep 29, 2018 at 10:23 AM Stephane Ducasse <[email protected]> > > wrote: > >> > >> Hi guille > >> > >> I deeply appreciated that you spent your time to bring Artefact to Pharo 70 > >> and in general all the positive energy you put around Pharo. > >> I love Iceberg! and more! > >> > >> I quit these mailing-lists in the past because of these little > >> aggressions, the "You should do that" > >> I registered today again to this mailing list just to publicly talk to > >> you, while I could come to your office (I will do it too). > >> > >> I did a port of Artefact to Pharo 60 a while ago and started to fix > >> Artefact aspects I did not like and I would like to integrate my fixes > >> to yours. Please let me know where it is. :) > >> > >> I do not care of the history because I prefer the future. If people > >> care then this is their duties. Easy. If they are not happy. This is > >> THEIR PROBLEM. You see people often tells me that I cannot control and > >> that github is decentralised. It is! So enjoy but @People try to avoid > >> to piss on good will of others. > >> > >> Now sorry Norbert your point that Guillemo would be rude because he spent > >> his time to help Milton and made sure that Artefact in Pharo 70 is clearly > >> out of context and misplaced. You see I did the same in > >> github.com/olivierauverlot because I needed it. And this is like that. > >> Period. > >> You are not happy. This is ok. You do not like it. This is ok too. > >> > >> This is several times that I noticed that your are not nice with > >> emails so do the same than me: think about the impact on others. You > >> have no idea about what guille is doing and what it is paid for and > >> this is certainly not to fix Artefact. And you may notice that we know > >> what is to work on others unmaintained code because we do it all the > >> time, we even create documentation on systems we do not understand > >> because some people are too busy to write method and class comments so > >> imagine documentation. > >> > >> So I would like to thanks again guille and I would like to have > >> artefact on Pharo 70. > >> > >> Stef > >>
