He’s on discord on squeak server. Maybe chatting with him in private could help 
resolve the misunderstanding.

Cheers,
Cedrick

> Le 30 mai 2020 à 18:26, Norbert Hartl <norb...@hartl.name> a écrit :
> 
> Yes, let us coordinate what to respond. To me this doesn't even sound like 
> Ron. Usually he is a rather quite and reasonable guy. Seems to be a lot of 
> misunderstandings here (again).
> As I was the one copying the Cryptography package to github it concerns me a 
> bit. I've been remembered now about yet another strange law suit in the US 
> and indeed we need to raise a bit of awareness for this. 
> 
> So let's figure out what has to be done. 
> 
> Norbert
> 
> 
>> Am 30.05.2020 um 14:43 schrieb Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.duca...@inria.fr>:
>> 
>> Hi all
>> 
>> This is the week-end and we worked super well yesterday during the sprint. 
>> Lot of good enhancements - Thanks a lot to all the participants. 
>> I not really happy to be forced to do it on a sunny saturday but I’m doing 
>> it to clarify points.
>> 
>> Esteban sent me this text that was posted on Squeak-Dev (I personally do not 
>> read squeak related forums because 
>> I have not the time and my focus is Pharo, its consortium, my team, my 
>> research and my family). 
>> 
>> We have to react because 
>>      - We do not really at ***all** understand this email
>>      - We did not kicked anybody from our mailing-list from ages - so ron is 
>> lying. In the past we even had discussion with ron - so we do not 
>>      really understand. May be we got problem to log on our mailing-lists. 
>>      We have no idea because we are working and not looking at such things.  
>>  
>>      - When we migrated smalltalkhub to readonly we payed attention to make 
>> sure that private projects stay private.
>>      We did not migrated smalltalkhub for fun. We MUST do it or it will be 
>> done by our infrastructure!
>>      - Now the cryptography packages are MIT and they are public anyway. So 
>> again we do not understand anything. 
>> 
>> We do not get why Ron contacted us because we announced the migration 
>> publicly way in advance and we will keep 
>> the Smalltalkhub frozen repo for at least next 5 years. 
>> 
>> I feel really sorry to hear such kind of email because we do not want to 
>> fight with anybody. 
>> Our goal is to make sure that people can work with Pharo and expand their 
>> business and knowledge. 
>> We are working hard to make sure that people can invent their future with 
>> Pharo and people that know us personally 
>> know that we are not lying.
>> 
>> S
>> 
>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> I've tried to work with the Pharo group but they keep kicking me out of 
>>> their mailing list.  I've already mentioned this a number of times to the 
>>> Pharo group but nobody seems to care.  
>>> 
>>> BOLD BOLD BOLD PLEASE TAKE THIS SERIOUSLY  BOLD BOLD BOLD
>>> 
>>> I am not a lawyer but we used very good lawyers to make the squeaksource 
>>> repository a safe place to do cryptography work.  If you are working on 
>>> cryptography DO NOT POST your code anywhere except squeaksource.  
>>> Especially if you are in the USA.  The ONLY repository that is approved to 
>>> host our cryptography code in the USA and therefore not subject to criminal 
>>> violations is squeaksource.  It is a CRIME in the USA to move code and make 
>>> it available on the internet for everyone to download!  It must be hosted 
>>> on squeaksoruce.com or another location that is also properly registered. 
>>> 
>>> IF YOU COPIED CRYPTOGRAPHY CODE TO ANOTHER REPOSITORY THAT IS NOT 
>>> REGISTERED I would recommend you delete it immediately.
>>> 
>>> END BOLD!  
>>> 
>>> Please feel free to post this to the Pharo mailing list because they 
>>> apparently do not want to hear from me!
>>> 
>>> All the best,
>>> 
>>> Ron Teitelbaum
>> 
>> 
>> --------------------------------------------
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>> http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr / http://www.pharo.org 
>> 03 59 35 87 52
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>> FAX 03 59 57 78 50
>> TEL 03 59 35 86 16
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>> 
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