Gary, No argument here. I find Watery a little bright for my taste, but suspect that will ease off when I set the background colors to my preference. There are aspects of Vistary that I like, though at least in the older versions that I have used more extensively, there is a little bit of a performance hit, and the button text can be hard to read. Given the choice between two non-ugly options, I will invariably go for the snappy one over the eye candy.
FWIW, I think one of the things I like most about Vistary is that the notifiers and debuggers are easier to identify than they are in recent Watery with OB. STV had really strong red notifiers, and I hated them. The clay rose that eventually evolved in Squeak was nice because it drew attention w/o being overpowering. I am _not_ saying we should regress - I greatly appreciate what you have been doing. I will do something to get my ledger green editors back, and might try a subtle toning of the stack list in the debugger; I'd have to see it to know whether it is a useful clue or something Steve Jobs would have erased from my disk :) Another plus on Vistary is that the title bar text ends up being easy to read; Watery's title bar font seems a little thin to me. But, simply thickening it might be too much?? Most of this is editorial background noise. You offer great options and they will no doubt get better over time. Watery does appear to be standing out as the leader right now. Whether that is because it is truly more effective or simply because we have a lot of mac users giving attention to it is largely irrelevant. Thanks for the making choice so difficult!!!! Bill Wilhelm K. Schwab, Ph.D. University of Florida Department of Anesthesiology PO Box 100254 Gainesville, FL 32610-0254 Email: [email protected] Tel: (352) 273-6785 FAX: (352) 392-7029 >>> [email protected] 01/14/09 1:18 PM >>> Guess Watery2 will be the Pharo look-and-feel... not had any correspondence from Samuel for some time now... So, I'm focussing on Watery2 for the moment. The SVGs and exports do take some time. Square button corners next then the window controls (experimented with Vistary as proof-of-concept). Regards, Gary. _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [email protected] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [email protected] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
