Recently (well just yesterday), I found SoftSqueak theme to be very effective: CPU effective, nice looking and suitable for narrow scrollbar to gain a few pixel in the line width.
Hilaire 2009/1/14 Gary Chambers <[email protected]>: > The fonts are of your own choosing... the fonts used in eah theme are those > specified in preferences. Watery uses plain labels, Vistary "fuzzy" ones > (have an alpha redraw around then to help contrast). Vistary benefits from > having a nice FreeType fonts (all themes do). The standard bitmapped ones > can lead to illegibility dependent on font size. The fuzzy labels come at a > performance cost, of course. 5 times the redraw for the label itself. I > guess the colour/alpha of the edges could also be themed and (see later) > user selectable at some point. > > As for colour scheme, Watery (and Watery2) take a consistent colour > approach. Vistary, SoftSqueak and StandardSqueak use the window/model > colours. Vistary, by virtue of increased use of translucency, will > inevitable "tone-down" the rather brash standard Squeak colours for various > windows. > > I feel we have a good spread of the potential available with the use of > Polymorph. Of course nobody can be totally pleased any of the time... but, > the potential is there. All feedback welcomed. Getting the more flexible > fillstyles and borderstyles in has really helped with the possibilities for > the look of morphs. > > For the moment some (theme based) settings are essentially hardcoded (you > can change via inspectors, for instance, Watery's window colour). Once > Settled I envisiage a Theme settings tool (won't take long, all that kind of > thing has already been done for our ReportBuilder). > > I am slightly disappointed in the responses wrt sound themes... perhaps most > people don't produced end-user applications! > > Thanks for the feedback. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bill Schwab" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 7:07 PM > Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Watery2 > > >> Gary, >> >> No argument here. I find Watery a little bright for my taste, but >> suspect that will ease off when I set the background colors to my >> preference. There are aspects of Vistary that I like, though at least >> in the older versions that I have used more extensively, there is a >> little bit of a performance hit, and the button text can be hard to >> read. Given the choice between two non-ugly options, I will invariably >> go for the snappy one over the eye candy. >> >> FWIW, I think one of the things I like most about Vistary is that the >> notifiers and debuggers are easier to identify than they are in recent >> Watery with OB. STV had really strong red notifiers, and I hated them. >> The clay rose that eventually evolved in Squeak was nice because it drew >> attention w/o being overpowering. I am _not_ saying we should regress - >> I greatly appreciate what you have been doing. I will do something to >> get my ledger green editors back, and might try a subtle toning of the >> stack list in the debugger; I'd have to see it to know whether it is a >> useful clue or something Steve Jobs would have erased from my disk :) >> >> Another plus on Vistary is that the title bar text ends up being easy to >> read; Watery's title bar font seems a little thin to me. But, simply >> thickening it might be too much?? >> >> Most of this is editorial background noise. You offer great options and >> they will no doubt get better over time. Watery does appear to be >> standing out as the leader right now. Whether that is because it is >> truly more effective or simply because we have a lot of mac users giving >> attention to it is largely irrelevant. >> >> Thanks for the making choice so difficult!!!! >> >> Bill >> >> >> >> >> Wilhelm K. Schwab, Ph.D. >> University of Florida >> Department of Anesthesiology >> PO Box 100254 >> Gainesville, FL 32610-0254 >> >> Email: [email protected] >> Tel: (352) 273-6785 >> FAX: (352) 392-7029 >> >>>>> [email protected] 01/14/09 1:18 PM >>> >> Guess Watery2 will be the Pharo look-and-feel... not had any >> correspondence >> from Samuel for some time now... >> >> So, I'm focussing on Watery2 for the moment. The SVGs and exports do >> take >> some time. Square button corners next then the window controls >> (experimented >> with Vistary as proof-of-concept). >> >> Regards, Gary. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- http://blog.ofset.org/hilaire _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [email protected] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
