On Mar 1, 2009, at 11:32 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote:

> I have the blame of it. I am who send emails to both list. So...this  
> is my fault.

No don't be sorry. The situation is stupid.

> Sorry about it. The main problem I have is that when I have  
> questions, suggestions, ideas or whatever, I really don't know where  
> to post it: if in squeak-dev or pharo. I really don't know If what I  
> want to say depends on the VM, or the image or to packages that are  
> shared between both of them. In addition, I think there are  
> important people that are only in one of the list. So, perhaps I  
> miss an answer If I only send emails in one list. And probably, the  
> same discussion could be useful for both lists.

Continue like you did it.
We will pay attention.

>
> What you think I should do ? which would be the better way so that  
> not to cause the problem mentioned above?
>
> I am following Pharo very near because this really interest me. I  
> really want to LIVE AND EAT using an open source smalltalk. I don't  
> want smalltalk to play. I want to WORK with it. So, I think Pharo is  
> the better approach for my intention.
>
> But, 90% the time I spend in Squeak is for SqueakDBX. And SqueakDBX  
> doesn't work well in pharo.

Excellent you will be able to say that ESUG pay you to produce code  
for Squeak :)

> I have random segmentation faults trough FFI which I don't have in  
> Squeak. I didn't want to spend many time trying to see what the  
> problem is till 1.0 is releases. At that moment, I will look for the  
> problem. When this is fixed, I will then really start using pharo  
> 100%.

Sure.
Can you report your problem on FFI :)
and add a bug report on pharo

Stef



>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Mariano
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 7:46 PM, Sebastian Sastre  
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi Stephane, I would not take it that seriously. Just focus that  
> good energy you
> have and use it in getting things done in pharo and adding real  
> value to it.
> Much it will receiver in return I'm sure of that.
> best,
> sebastian
>
>
> > -----Mensaje original-----
> > De: [email protected]
> > [mailto:[email protected]] En
> > nombre de Stephane Ducasse
> > Enviado el: Sunday, March 01, 2009 18:29
> > Para: Pharo Development
> > Asunto: [Pharo-project] A point a.k.a excuse to you
> >
> > Hi guys
> >
> > I probably should not have forwarded to you the email I replied to
> > matthew
> > but I was thinking that other people can know that I was personally
> > touched
> > by the situation in Squeak.
> > I'm sorry about.
> >
> > We got a lot of bird names and others. Recently somebody was
> > implying
> > that
> > marcus was bashing squeak because he sent an email on the pharo
> > mailing-list stating that the situation
> > for keyboard was worse in squeak.
> > I'm fed up. I'm interested in pharo because I want to create
> > free and
> > good energy.
> > We did a lot in the past and I want to continue. Now I unregistered
> > from the squeak mailing-list
> > and I will not justify anymore why I quit. Now I want pharo
> > to be cool.
> >
> > Stef
> >
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