Also just wondering what anyone thought of the concept of Maui in the context of this discussion!
http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/3836 Rob 2009/6/20 Steve Wirts <[email protected]> > I did a talk(attached) at OOPSLA several years ago to explain the benefits > of ValueModels to java programmers, it was way over their heads. > It's unfortunate as today I've yet to see anything in java that approaches > the productivity they provide. > > > > 2009/6/20 Schwab,Wilhelm K <[email protected]> > > Steve, >> >> Interesting that you mention value models. I just ran into a use for a >> ValueHolder, and discovered that Dolphin's #value, #value: protocol was not >> present. In fact ValueHolder>>value answers the receiver! I added an >> override to my Dolphin compatibility package. I exepect to add >> AspectValueAdapter and perhaps some converters as need arises. >> >> None of this takes away from Magritte; I share your interest in it and >> willingness to consider it as potentially powerful tool for GUI building. >> >> Bill >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* [email protected] [mailto: >> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Steve Wirts >> *Sent:* Friday, June 19, 2009 8:01 PM >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* Re: [Pharo-project] Making GUI'S >> >> Value Models, TypeConverter library, SubCanvas support(super powerful idea >> here), etc... some really wonderful idioms long lost in OO guis. >> VisualWorks had some really nice frameworks that were discarded due to >> them being undervalued. >> I hope to eventually re-introduce some of these fun frameworks into pharo >> given my time constraints and interest from potential users. >> >> see >> http://c2.com/ppr/vmodels.html >> >> Magritte seems like it might be a superior alternative to VisualWorks >> ValueModels; I haven't explored it enough to really know yet. >> Pharo is the most exciting thing to come along for me in quite awhile! >> >> >> >> On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 4:42 PM, Stéphane Ducasse < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> > >>> > I don't know what I am waiting for -- except more time -- because I >>> > guess I should build such a thing. (Are there any Pharo/squeak coders >>> > available for part-time consulting over the next year? ...At student >>> > level pay I must add.) >>> > >>> > I too want a GUI builder. >>> >>> >>> me too :) >>> So may be we could have a kind of bounty system for pharo. >>> Frankly we are rather full and we (the core) have not that much time for >>> extensions but we would support any work in the direction of >>> UIBuilder >>> TestServer >>> Package.... >>> FileWrite-Rio kind of integration >>> Better MC support (yes I should look at MC1.5) >>> Better SUnit >>> Better tools (for example like the newInspector) >>> >>> Stef >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >
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