Mariano,

Re startup and shutdown, please have a look at this:

   http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/StartupAndShutdown

I will resist the temptation to re-state a lot of it here, because we should 
improve the above so we can make a decision.

A syntax-colored export indeed connects with ODBC :)   I need to scan the code 
for anything that should not be released, and comments are likely offenders.  
If I can get the whole thing as one sprawlign html document with the comments 
in green, it would be easier to gain confidence that the code is "clean".  The 
ODBC code itself will be fine, but anything containing older code needs to be 
checked.

Bill



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Martinez Peck
Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 12:27 PM
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Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] ODBC



2009/10/13 Schwab,Wilhelm K 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Hello all,

I had no idea I left such an inaccurate impression, but on re-reading what I 
wrote, it could be taken as though I sought to compete with Diego - sorry about 
that all around.

No no. I didn get that impressiont. I just asked because I wanted to know the 
differences :)
Don't worry.

Let's try this again:

I found Diego's work lacking the ability to query table names and field 
names/types, wrote code to those things, and plan to make it available.  Think 
of it as being an addition to Diego's package; the two can be merged.


One thing I do not like about Squeak/Pharo in general is the whacked up way it 
mixes
snapshots with startup and shutdown.

I don't understand this.

If I were to spin off of a new ODBC package, it would be to fix that.

The porting to which I referred is code that runs on top of OBBC, sockets, etc. 
 That goes fairly well, and will spin off some collective benefits with time.  
As I said some time back, the best thing I can do to help with Pharo is to get 
myself hooked on it, at which point I will begin writing tools that would be of 
general interest.

It would help a lot to have a good way to export syntax colored code (HTML??) 
from MC packages.

I don't understand whot this is related with ODBC :(

My concern is that I might have comments that need to be removed for release.  
I live under a few non-disclosure agreements, and it would be bad to have a 
stray comment violate one of them.  I am pretty careful about that now, but 
every so often find something that would have been more wisely placed outside 
of my code.

The worst news I have is that when I tried to move code into the October web 
image, the image refused to open an ODBC connection.  In fact, the vm just 
crashed w/o writing diagnostic info to a file.  I retreated to my current 
(July) image, and have been distracted with lots of progress on some complex 
fronts; however, I do need to get back to trying to identify the source of the 
crash.


yeah, I remember :(

Bill



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 On Behalf Of Mariano Martinez Peck
Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 10:02 AM
To: 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] ODBC

I would also like to know the difference (advantages and disadvatages) of 
Bill's driver and the one of Diego Gomez Deck which is:

http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/2480
http://www.squeaksource.com/ODBC.html

Best,

Mariano

On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 11:38 PM, Carlos Crosetti 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
How is the ODBC port to Pharo going on?

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 nombre de
Schwab,Wilhelm K
Enviado el: Martes, 01 de Septiembre de 2009 05:15 p.m.
Para: 
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Asunto: [Pharo-project] ODBCWarning


The porting continues...  It is getting closer to doing something.  It just
raised an ODBCWarning about the server changing the language to us_english.
Any ideas?  Either I do not care or should set it up front??

One thing really surprised me, and note that I might have brought this on
myself (though I think that is unlikely) by messing with startup and
shutdown: the ODBCLibrary was stubbornly clinging to the Linux library from
my home machine.  I finally used

   ODBCLibrary default initialize.

which seemed to put an end to the separation anxiety.  Is there a better
fix?  I suppose I should try this in a clean image to see if there is really
a problem therein, but that will be a little hard to do without a lot of my
code, almost any of which either depends on changes I have made or could
have caused the problem.

Maybe I should ask whether some of you use ODBC on Windows and Linux and
have no problems moving between the machines.

Bill

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