Lukas,

I'm not accusing you of snobbery, but it has been _obvious_ elsewhere, and it 
certainly has not helped advance the cause.

Bill



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> IMHO, the real problem has been a sort of XP snobbery: it appears that those 
> building or integrating what would otherwise be a wonderful tool, have zero 
> interest in preserving comments, and even some contempt for those of who 
> write them.

This has nothing to do with snobbery, it is a technical issue.

> I will spare you second-hand comments about what has been done in other 
> languages and editors, as I have never encountered an RB anywhere but 
> Smalltalk.

I know the refactoring engine of Eclipse. It must be 20 years ahead of 
Smalltalk.

When saying that one must keep in mind that printing Java code so that it 
preserves the formatting is easier than to do the same with Smalltalk. Even if 
they have to handle 100+ AST node types individually, they all have a very 
strict structure and are rarely nested in unpredictable ways. Furthermore since 
the editor expands, completes, indents and formats a lot of code automatically 
anyway, people don't even notice when their code gets reformatted.

Lukas

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