Just yesterday, I asked Frederic to remove the class and method entries that add a lot of the noise and are most often not needed. He committed a new version with these changes.
But from Stef's analysis it seems there is a bit more needed to make this inspector fly... And a really good inspector is key! Another item to add to Stef's list: what is the point of the item "Keys"? I can see the keys of the dictionary already by opening "Elements". So this seems superfluous. I wonder why inspecting a dictionary could not be reduced to the information that is actually of interest, namely the keys and their values. So when opening a dictionary, the subtree would directly display the keys in the left pane (no array, tally, Keys, Elements). If a key is selected, its value is printed in the right pane. Expanding a key would dive into its associated value. Actually, I think what I described here is more or less the behavior of the old explore tool. Cheers, Adrian On Nov 26, 2009, at 18:39 , Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > Hi guys > > again I did a demo of smalltalk and the newInspecotr got in my way. > I tried to analyze what did not work: > - apparently the refresh does not work. Does change in instance > variables get refreshed in the inspector? > > I try to understand what get in my way in general. > - when an object has few instance variable I think that it is lost > in the sea of trees. > > - I think that the |> class is not useful at the top level. > May be just having Class: and the class Name is enough no need for > the |> > May be the Class : ByteString should appear after the Elements: > > - the |> methods to be useful should be sorted by category > > in the screenshot > Why do I see the instance variable of the dictionary (array and > tally) I find that confusing? > Because I get elements and at the same time the instance variables. > > I do not understand why some lines are bold and other blue > > When we click on connectInfo I see on the right pane > - size : 5 > [#host] : a SocketAddress (size: 24) > [#loginMethod] : #zork > [#password] : nil > [#port] : 110 > [#user] : 'stephane.ducasse' > But I cannot modify anything. > > What is the point to have Elements expanded in the left pane when I > get the contents by clicking on the instance > variable and getting the contents on the right. > > Then Keys should probably close to Elements. > > I do not see the point to have |> for individual method > I do not understand why we see Elements and ByteCode > I get a DNU when I click on Elements of a method BTW > > > <Screen shot 2009-11-26 at 6.14.31 > PM.png>_______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [email protected] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
