Ok I will check. may be we can have a mode that does not provide object interpretation (for dict we would only see tally and array not the dictionary, ...).
Stef On Nov 26, 2009, at 7:40 PM, Adrian Lienhard wrote: > Just yesterday, I asked Frederic to remove the class and method > entries that add a lot of the noise and are most often not needed. He > committed a new version with these changes. > > But from Stef's analysis it seems there is a bit more needed to make > this inspector fly... And a really good inspector is key! > > Another item to add to Stef's list: what is the point of the item > "Keys"? I can see the keys of the dictionary already by opening > "Elements". So this seems superfluous. > > I wonder why inspecting a dictionary could not be reduced to the > information that is actually of interest, namely the keys and their > values. So when opening a dictionary, the subtree would directly > display the keys in the left pane (no array, tally, Keys, Elements). > If a key is selected, its value is printed in the right pane. > Expanding a key would dive into its associated value. Actually, I > think what I described here is more or less the behavior of the old > explore tool. > > Cheers, > Adrian > > > On Nov 26, 2009, at 18:39 , Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > >> Hi guys >> >> again I did a demo of smalltalk and the newInspecotr got in my way. >> I tried to analyze what did not work: >> - apparently the refresh does not work. Does change in instance >> variables get refreshed in the inspector? >> >> I try to understand what get in my way in general. >> - when an object has few instance variable I think that it is lost >> in the sea of trees. >> >> - I think that the |> class is not useful at the top level. >> May be just having Class: and the class Name is enough no need for >> the |> >> May be the Class : ByteString should appear after the Elements: >> >> - the |> methods to be useful should be sorted by category >> >> in the screenshot >> Why do I see the instance variable of the dictionary (array and >> tally) I find that confusing? >> Because I get elements and at the same time the instance variables. >> >> I do not understand why some lines are bold and other blue >> >> When we click on connectInfo I see on the right pane >> - size : 5 >> [#host] : a SocketAddress (size: 24) >> [#loginMethod] : #zork >> [#password] : nil >> [#port] : 110 >> [#user] : 'stephane.ducasse' >> But I cannot modify anything. >> >> What is the point to have Elements expanded in the left pane when I >> get the contents by clicking on the instance >> variable and getting the contents on the right. >> >> Then Keys should probably close to Elements. >> >> I do not see the point to have |> for individual method >> I do not understand why we see Elements and ByteCode >> I get a DNU when I click on Elements of a method BTW >> >> >> <Screen shot 2009-11-26 at 6.14.31 >> PM.png>_______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [email protected] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
