On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 8:07 PM, Marcus Denker <[email protected]> wrote:
> > On Nov 27, 2009, at 12:03 AM, Lukas Renggli wrote: > > > In my experience the truetype fonts and the mac skin are a major > > slowdown. If I disable both things I get a much faster image. Now I do > > like nice fonts, so I just live with that speed penalty ... > > > > maybe we should add a note to the download page that on slow machines, > people > should download the Core image instead and switch the skin to a simpler > one... > > Once I wrote this: http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/CodeSnippets Look the title "isabling features for more speed". > Marcus > > > > Lukas > > > > On Thursday, November 26, 2009, Schwab,Wilhelm K <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Stef, > >> > >> I have a "slow" machine that stands ready to help with numbers any time; > it is semi-retired now, running Ubuntu 9.04. It might be a good ideas to > dual-boot it, but I find it challenging to work up the motivation to assault > it with a Windows CD, and I have a similar era machine running win2k. > >> > >> My sense is that Pharo is slower than Squeak, and I am suspicious that > the Linux vm is not as efficient as it could be. I forget wheher I saw this > only on Linux, but somewhere I reported a long-sourced method that I saw > draw in monochrome and AGAIN in color. Nothing against Shout (as the > self-apppointed comment pedant, I **really** appreciate syntax > highlighting), there might be some room for efficiency by skipping the > monochrom pass. > >> > >> Resizing on Linux turns the main window black. It might make more sense > to invalidate and draw once after the sizing is complete?? > >> > >> I have long heard people claim that Linux is faster than Windows, but I > was not convinced. Having recently purchased a new machine and watched it > labor under the weight of Vista long enough to see for myself what all the > stench was about, I think I get it. Current Linux distributions with the > customary graphical largese are not happy on 7+ year old machines that > handily run Win2k. However, a new box that just barely gets by under > Windows will be relatively quick running Linux. > >> > >> I forget who said it: "software is getting slow faster than hardware is > getting fast." > >> > >> Bill > >> > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: [email protected] [mailto: > [email protected]] On Behalf Of Stéphane Ducasse > >> Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2009 5:02 PM > >> To: neil butterworth > >> Cc: Pharo Development > >> Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] about Pharo > >> > >> Thanks for your reply :) > >> > >>>> what you report is strange. > >>>> Can you let us know: > >>> > >>>> - vm > >>> > >>> The Pharo VM is the current (as of a couple of days ago) download from > >>> the Pharo Homepage - Squeak 3.11.4 (beta). > >>> > >>>> - OS > >>> > >>> Win2K SP4 > >>> > >>>> - image version > >>> > >>> Once again, a very recent download - > >>> pharo1.0-10493-rc1dev09.11.2.image > >>> > >>>> - your display depth > >>> > >>> True Color 24 bit > >> > >> I have > >> Display depth -> 32 > >> > >> then 24 looks strange to me. > >> > >> depth: bitsPerPixel > >> (bitsPerPixel > 32 or: > >> [(bitsPerPixel bitAnd: bitsPerPixel-1) ~= 0]) > >> ifTrue: [self halt: 'bitsPerPixel must be 1, 2, 4, 8, 16 > or 32']. > >> depth := bitsPerPixel > >> > >> Can you type > >> Display depth > >> > >> and Display depth: 32 to see if this change something? > >> > >>>> Because people are using pharo on production and we got an increase > >>>> of 15% of Morphic in pharo 1.1 so I have some doubts. > >>> > >>> It is very definitely much slower than Squeak on my system. This is an > >>> old laptop 900MHz P3, but it has no problems at all running Squeak. > >> > >> We should keep an old machine around to test it. > >> this is strange. > >> Because the Ob2Browser is slow because it displays package and getting > package information is slow. > >> Which browser are you using > >> Can you give a try to change it and use the system browser (to change > click on the right icon on the window ... Choose new default menu) > >> > >> Can you change the theme? > >> using the preference pane? > >> > >> > >> Thanks > >> > >> Stef > >> > >>> > >>> Neil Butterworth > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Pharo-project mailing list > >> [email protected] > >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Pharo-project mailing list > >> [email protected] > >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > >> > > > > -- > > Lukas Renggli > > http://www.lukas-renggli.ch > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >
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