Thanks, Mariano. Indeed, that is the kind of information I am looking for.
Cheers, Doru On 27 Nov 2009, at 00:23, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > Ok.....Doru: I will answer you as much as I know. > > I think it is good your idea of having a webpage with all the > answers of your questions and even more. The seaside persistence > page is ok, but two things: 1) this is not only squeak/pharo but > others dialects too, 2) Most of those persistence strategies are > not seaside dependent. I mean, you can use them in others contexts, > not only seaside. > > Maybe we can modify http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/PackagesTestedInPharo > and put more information. > > what do you mean by "Projects that use this one" ? projects like > Glorp or enterprise/company projeccts ? > > Regarding SqueakDBX there are two projects: SqueakDBX itself and > GlorpDBX. > > SqueakDBX is just the database driver. > > Maturity: SqueakDBX has raised the "stable" maturity. > Version: You can have in Universe 1.0 and 1.1 (which is the latest > one). For stable releases we use Universe and SqueakMap, but not MC. > However, most of the time, the latests versions in MC are "working". > I know this is not the best approach and we can use Metacello or > Sake but we didn't have time yet. > In this moment, you can install the latests version and will work > perfect. You can take the latest Pharo image (core, dev or web), > download the package SqueakDBXLoaders and then just evaluate > SqueakDBXPharoLoader loadSqueakDBX. > Supported database vendor and version: I can told you the "tested" > databases, but not the supported. Because I don't know. Maybe it > works and maybe it doesn't.We have tested the following databases: > Oracle (I think 9 and 10, but I guess it should work on 11), MySQL 5 > (in 4.1 we have some problems but there is some work done), > PostgresSQL 8.X, Sqlite3.XXX, MSSQL 2005 and 2008. > Current development: GlorpDBX and fixing bugs when reported > Maintance support: we are here :) we have our own mailing list: > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/squeakdbx > Website: www.squeakdbx.org > > > GlorpDBX: We did two things: we refactored Glorp so that it is not > couple to the native postgresql driver anymore but to an API > (abstract database driver). And then, we create a concrete Glorp > driver for SqueakDBX (that's what we call GlorpDBX) and another one > for the postgresql native driver. > > Maturity: Yet in development. Thanks to ESUG for the sponsoring on > SummerTalk 2009. Right now we have postgresql, mysql and oracle > green tests. We will then work on MSSQL support. > Version: There is no release yet, but you can download the latest > from MC. Just download the package SqueakDBXLoaders and evaluate > SqueakDBXLoader loadGlorpDBX. The problem here is Glorp. The Glorp > port we have in Squeak is too old. We plan to do a new port from VW > but this is quite complicated as there is no exporter from Store to > MC as I understand. > Supported database vendor and version: I can told you the "tested" > databases, but not the supported. Because I don't know. Maybe it > works and maybe it doesn't.We have tested the following databases: > Oracle (I think 9 and 10, but I guess it should work on 11), MySQL 5 > (in 4.1 we have some problems but there is some work done), > PostgresSQL 8.X. > Maintance support: we are here :) > Website: www.squeakdbx.org > > > There is also the native postgresql driver which also works on Pharo > and it has no dependencies. In addition, you can load Glorp with our > refactor and a new Glorp driver we did but using the postgresql > native driver. To do this, you must download GlorpPharoLoader and > evaluate loadGlorpWithNativePostgreSQLDriver. > > There is also Magma than in the few months they did a lot of work > and now it works also in Pharo. > > Ok....that's all I could tell you. I don't have a pharo image here > so maybe some of the messages I told you are wrong :( > > Cheers, > > Mariano > > On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 7:44 PM, Stéphane Ducasse <[email protected] > > wrote: > > On Nov 26, 2009, at 11:38 PM, Diogenes Moreira wrote: > > > A OK.. > > > > SqueakDbx http://www.SqueakDBX.org > > > > with Glorp. http://www.glorp.org > > > > which version.... live in the trunk is more fun. :) > > well. > I just got a discussion with doru that this is a pain to load the > latest version of something > because you cannot load a previous and robust set of consistently > working together versions. > Soon people will have to offer metacello configuration. > > > > > > Best Regards. > > > > On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 7:06 PM, Tudor Girba > <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Hi, > >> > >> That sounds interesting indeed. > >> > >> But, I was more talking about the projects for DB mapping, not the > >> application projects. In other words, what Pharo project are you > using > >> and which version to work with what version of what database. > >> > >> For example, you mentioned SqueakDBX. Which version? Is the > latest one > >> Ok? The same for Glorp. > >> > >> Cheers, > >> Doru > >> > >> > >> On 26 Nov 2009, at 22:59, Diogenes Moreira wrote: > >> > >>> in fact, we are working on a new page .... please be patient > with us > >>> as .. > >>> > >>> is the tipical situation, the good programmers make horrible > >>> pages...please some graphics artist, help us.... :) > >>> > >>> > >>> Regards. > >>> > >>> On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 6:45 PM, Stéphane Ducasse > >>> <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>> Excellent! > >>>> Diogenes it would be great if you could have a web page :) > >>>> > >>>> Stef > >>>> > >>>> On Nov 26, 2009, at 10:17 PM, Diogenes Moreira wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> http://www.smallworks.com.ar > >>>>> > >>>>> We have a lot products in productions using relationals > >>>>> database. Sadly, we don't have webpages for all > >>>>> products...we are programmers :) > >>>>> > >>>>> Today, our strategy is use Glorp, with SqueakDBX. > >>>>> (Postgres, MySql, Oracle and comming Soon MSSQL), when we > don't use > >>>>> the prevalence > >>>>> > >>>>> But we have products with Glorp with direct driver and > >>>>> Homemade Frameworks. > >>>>> > >>>>> the best success case is a Postal Tracking System. This > >>>>> system manages arround 2 millon letters at month. This system > >>>>> use PostgreSql and Glorp. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Best Regards > >>>>> > >>>>> On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 5:14 PM, Stephan Eggermont > >>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>>>> Doru wrote: > >>>>>> >I would like to collect a list of the solutions to link > >>>>>> >Pharo with existing databases. I am interested in > >>>>>> >both relational and in object databases. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Something like http://www.seaside.st/documentation/persistence? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Stephan > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list > >>>>>> [email protected] > >>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>> Pharo-project mailing list > >>>>> [email protected] > >>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Pharo-project mailing list > >>>> [email protected] > >>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > >>>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Pharo-project mailing list > >>> [email protected] > >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo- > project > >> > >> -- > >> www.tudorgirba.com > >> > >> "The coherence of a trip is given by the clearness of the goal." > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Pharo-project mailing list > >> [email protected] > >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project -- www.tudorgirba.com "From an abstract enough point of view, any two things are similar." _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [email protected] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
