Hi, I like the template!

However, we are mixing our brand up a bit.  I thought we agreed we
would not call the pharo image a dev image?  or did I miss something?
So we are in this state where some things (e.g the installers, the
pharo images) have dev in their name/filename, and sometimes we just
call it Pharo in our documentation and conversation.  We should try
and be consistent, or rethink the branding. It's caused by us having
one artifact without a suffix, whereas the rest do. (pharo,
pharo-core, pharo-web).

thanks,
Mike

On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 12:55 PM, Adrian Lienhard <[email protected]> wrote:
> Thanks, I updated the template.
>
> Adrian
>
> On Dec 3, 2009, at 11:26 , laurent laffont wrote:
>
>> A first template:
>>
>>
>> If you fill an issue for the first time, please read "How to report
>> bugs"
>> at http://www.pharo-project.org/community/issue-tracking
>>
>> Pharo image: <core, dev or web>
>> Pharo core version: <copy from World/System/About>
>> Virtual machine used: <ex: pharo-vm-0.15.2f-linux>
>> Class browser used if applicable: <ex: O2PackageBrowserAdaptor. If
>> you don't
>> know, print "SystemBrowser default">
>>
>> Steps to reproduce:
>> 1.
>> 2.
>> 3.
>>
>>
>> Paste or attach stack trace if applicable (look at the file
>> PharoDebug.log
>> located in the same directory as your image):
>>
>> Thank you !
>>
>> Laurent
>>
>> 2009/12/3 Mariano Martinez Peck <[email protected]>
>>
>>> Adrian: Thanks for your changes! It looks much better :)
>>>
>>> Laufert: yes, that's a cool idea. I wasn't aware neither.
>>>
>>> Could someone write a template? Then we just add the link to the
>>> new page.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>> Mariano
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 10:44 AM, Adrian Lienhard <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> ah, I didn't know that is possible. Good idea!
>>>>
>>>> Adrian
>>>>
>>>> On Dec 3, 2009, at 10:34 , laurent laffont wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> May be you should fill the issue templates on google code issue
>>>>> tracker.
>>>>> Like this: http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/entry
>>>>>
>>>>> Laurent
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 10:18 AM, Adrian Lienhard <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks Mariano. I have condensed your text a bit and put it
>>>>>> online at
>>>>>> http://www.pharo-project.org/community/issue-tracking
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Adrian
>>>>>>
>>>>>> BTW, I also added the milestones for version 1.1 on the home page.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Dec 2, 2009, at 18:43 , Mariano Martinez Peck wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think it is really a good idea to create a page in the Pharo
>>>>>>> website about
>>>>>>> how to report a bug. I think that only the link to the google
>>>>>>> page
>>>>>>> is not
>>>>>>> enough. Maybe it is a good idea to explain it a bit more, and in
>>>>>>> addition,
>>>>>>> give some tips. I would write something like the text above in
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>> page. I
>>>>>>> would replace everywhere where it is a link to
>>>>>>> http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/list   to this new page.
>>>>>>> I saw
>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>> are these
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.pharo-project.org/home    (on the right)
>>>>>>> http://www.pharo-project.org/documentation/faq  (in the question
>>>>>>> "Where do I
>>>>>>> report Pharo bugs?")
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My English is not the best at all, so any feedback is more than
>>>>>>> welcome. In
>>>>>>> addition, maybe you don't agree with me.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My main purpose is to help newcomers to submit issues.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So....here it is
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "
>>>>>>> An issue, also known as ticket,  represents many things. It can
>>>>>>> be a
>>>>>>> bug, a
>>>>>>> enchantment,  packages, projects or commits to check, etc.
>>>>>>> For the Pharo project, we use the Google Code issue tracker
>>>>>>> which is
>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>> http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/list.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - Before submitting you may take into account the following tips:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1) Search in the existent issue list if there is something
>>>>>>> similar.
>>>>>>> In the
>>>>>>> issue tracker you will find a "search" button to do that. Be
>>>>>>> aware
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>> there is a list of options and the default one is "Open
>>>>>>> ticket". It
>>>>>>> is very
>>>>>>> common you need to search in "All issues".
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2) If the ticket is a bug, and there is a problem with certain
>>>>>>> method,
>>>>>>> search for that method or even for that class. It is very
>>>>>>> common to
>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>> "MessageNotUnderstood". So, in this case you can search for that
>>>>>>> method. For
>>>>>>> example, if you evaluate:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> TestCase nonExistentMethod: something other: another
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You will get "MessageNotUnderstood: TestCase
>>>>>>> class>>nonExistentMethod:other:"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So, here you can search for "nonExistentMethod:other:" for
>>>>>>> exampe.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 3) Do the same of 1) and 2) but on the mailing list. If you are
>>>>>>> new
>>>>>>> or even
>>>>>>> if you are not subscribed, you can see and search in the mailing
>>>>>>> list here:
>>>>>>> http://n2.nabble.com/Pharo-Smalltalk-f2305563.html
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sometimes some tickets are reported only in mailing list
>>>>>>> (that's too
>>>>>>> bad!!!). And maybe, that happened before you get subscribed in
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> mailing
>>>>>>> list. This way you are sure you are searching also in the mailing
>>>>>>> list.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - When you are submitting an issue there are also some tips you
>>>>>>> should take
>>>>>>> into account:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1) If the issue is related to ClassBrowser, refactor or similar,
>>>>>>> please tell
>>>>>>> us which browser are you using. If you don't know it, just
>>>>>>> evaluate
>>>>>>> and see
>>>>>>> the results of "SystemBrowser default".
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2) ALWAYS say which version of VM, image (not only if it is a
>>>>>>> core
>>>>>>> or pharo
>>>>>>> image but also exactly the version) and OS are you using.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 3) If the bug is reproducible, please explain how to do it step
>>>>>>> by
>>>>>>> step. If
>>>>>>> we have to use a particular VM, OS, or image, say it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 4) If the bug brings a debugger popup, it would be very useful if
>>>>>>> you could
>>>>>>> put in the issue entry the full stacktrace. To get this
>>>>>>> stacktrace,
>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>> are 2 ways:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 4.a) Search for the generated PharoDebug.log which is in the same
>>>>>>> directory
>>>>>>> where if image is and attached in the issue. In that file there
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>> not only
>>>>>>> the full stacktrace but also some information about the version
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> the VM,
>>>>>>> OS and image you were using at that moment, etc.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 4.b) In the debugger, open the contextual menu and there is an
>>>>>>> item
>>>>>>> 'mail
>>>>>>> out bug report' to directly send the stack trace with VM
>>>>>>> version etc
>>>>>>> to the
>>>>>>> pharo list (or whoever you want to, but by default it's the Pharo
>>>>>>> ml). Of
>>>>>>> course you can edit the message to describe your problem for
>>>>>>> example.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 5) If you are not a newcomer and you know a bit you can put
>>>>>>> labels
>>>>>>> to the
>>>>>>> issue. For example if it should be Milestone 1.0 or Type-
>>>>>>> Closure, or
>>>>>>> TypeOB,
>>>>>>> etc.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 6) If you are not a newcomer and you know a bit you can copy
>>>>>>> people
>>>>>>> with the
>>>>>>> "Cc:" option. This is very useful when you know that the issue is
>>>>>>> in a
>>>>>>> certain package for example and you know who is responsible or
>>>>>>> maintainer of
>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 7) After submitting the issue, you must send and email to the
>>>>>>> mailing list
>>>>>>> with the link. What you can do also is to copy and paste the
>>>>>>> details
>>>>>>> of the
>>>>>>> issue in the body of the email. With this, all the people know
>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 8) If the ticket is a MNU it would be very useful to put that
>>>>>>> message (in
>>>>>>> our example "MessageNotUnderstood: TestCase
>>>>>>> class>>nonExistentMethod:other:") in the description of the
>>>>>>> ticket
>>>>>>> or even
>>>>>>> in the title of the issue and the subject of the email. With
>>>>>>> this we
>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>> take advantage of the Google search engine.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 9) If you have a fix remember you must sign the MIT license
>>>>>>> first.
>>>>>>> For more
>>>>>>> information read http://www.pharo-project.org/license
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 2 déc. 2009, at 08:05, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2009/12/2 laurent laffont <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I want to check if there's updates to Slime package as I faces
>>>>>>>> several bugs
>>>>>>>> but  sources.lukas-renggli.ch seems to be down. Is there a
>>>>>>>> mirror ?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> About the bugs (Slime-lr.24,current pharo rc1 web image), when I
>>>>>>>> select
>>>>>>>> refactor > code critics:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> - it seems that ParserTreeSearcher has been renamed to
>>>>>>>> RBParserTreeSearcher. Thus there's several errors like
>>>>>>>> WAChangesStateWhileRenderingRule>>initialize
>>>>>>>> (ParseTreeSearcher is
>>>>>>>> Undeclared)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> - this done, I have the error:
>>>>>>>> AnObsoleteParseTreeSearcher(Object)>>doesNotUnderstand:
>>>>>>>> #executeTree:initialAnswer:  (from
>>>>>>>> RBAssignmentIfTrueRule>>checkMethod:)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> How do I save a stack trace to a text file (or clipboard) from
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> debugger
>>>>>>>> ?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Look for the file called PharoDebug.log which is in the directory
>>>>>>> where the
>>>>>>> image is. It will have not only the stacktrace but also much more
>>>>>>> information, as VM version, OS, etc.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> or....
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In the debugger, open the contextual menu and there is an item
>>>>>>> 'mail
>>>>>>> out bug
>>>>>>> report' to directly send the stack trace with VM version etc to
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> pharo
>>>>>>> list (or whoever you want to, but by default it's the Pharo
>>>>>>> ml). Of
>>>>>>> course
>>>>>>> you can edit the message to make it shorter (we dont need the
>>>>>>> full
>>>>>>> stack in
>>>>>>> general) and describe your problem etc.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mariano
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Laurent Laffont
>>>>>>>>
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