indeed :)
PharoCore is cooler :)

On Dec 10, 2009, at 5:13 PM, Miguel Cobá wrote:

> Wasn't the names Pharo and PharoCore?
> 
> http://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/24983/PharoCore-1.1-11078-alpha.zip
> http://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/24963/PharoCore-1.1-11068-alpha.zip
> 
> http://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/24991/PharoCore-1.0-10501rc1.zip
> http://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/24363/PharoCore-1.0-10491rc1.zip
> 
> IMHO, PharoCore looks better than Pharo-core, but the board has the last word.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 2:16 AM, Adrian Lienhard <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Thanks for pointing this out. I fixed the template. It should be
>> either "Pharo" or "Pharo-core".
>> 
>> Adrian
>> 
>> On Dec 9, 2009, at 19:45 , Michael Roberts wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi, I like the template!
>>> 
>>> However, we are mixing our brand up a bit.  I thought we agreed we
>>> would not call the pharo image a dev image?  or did I miss something?
>>> So we are in this state where some things (e.g the installers, the
>>> pharo images) have dev in their name/filename, and sometimes we just
>>> call it Pharo in our documentation and conversation.  We should try
>>> and be consistent, or rethink the branding. It's caused by us having
>>> one artifact without a suffix, whereas the rest do. (pharo,
>>> pharo-core, pharo-web).
>>> 
>>> thanks,
>>> Mike
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 12:55 PM, Adrian Lienhard <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Thanks, I updated the template.
>>>> 
>>>> Adrian
>>>> 
>>>> On Dec 3, 2009, at 11:26 , laurent laffont wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> A first template:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> If you fill an issue for the first time, please read "How to report
>>>>> bugs"
>>>>> at http://www.pharo-project.org/community/issue-tracking
>>>>> 
>>>>> Pharo image: <core, dev or web>
>>>>> Pharo core version: <copy from World/System/About>
>>>>> Virtual machine used: <ex: pharo-vm-0.15.2f-linux>
>>>>> Class browser used if applicable: <ex: O2PackageBrowserAdaptor. If
>>>>> you don't
>>>>> know, print "SystemBrowser default">
>>>>> 
>>>>> Steps to reproduce:
>>>>> 1.
>>>>> 2.
>>>>> 3.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Paste or attach stack trace if applicable (look at the file
>>>>> PharoDebug.log
>>>>> located in the same directory as your image):
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thank you !
>>>>> 
>>>>> Laurent
>>>>> 
>>>>> 2009/12/3 Mariano Martinez Peck <[email protected]>
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Adrian: Thanks for your changes! It looks much better :)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Laufert: yes, that's a cool idea. I wasn't aware neither.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Could someone write a template? Then we just add the link to the
>>>>>> new page.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Mariano
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 10:44 AM, Adrian Lienhard <[email protected]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> ah, I didn't know that is possible. Good idea!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Adrian
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Dec 3, 2009, at 10:34 , laurent laffont wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> May be you should fill the issue templates on google code issue
>>>>>>>> tracker.
>>>>>>>> Like this: http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/entry
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Laurent
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 10:18 AM, Adrian Lienhard
>>>>>>>> <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Thanks Mariano. I have condensed your text a bit and put it
>>>>>>>>> online at
>>>>>>>>> http://www.pharo-project.org/community/issue-tracking
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>> Adrian
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> BTW, I also added the milestones for version 1.1 on the home
>>>>>>>>> page.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Dec 2, 2009, at 18:43 , Mariano Martinez Peck wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I think it is really a good idea to create a page in the Pharo
>>>>>>>>>> website about
>>>>>>>>>> how to report a bug. I think that only the link to the google
>>>>>>>>>> page
>>>>>>>>>> is not
>>>>>>>>>> enough. Maybe it is a good idea to explain it a bit more, and
>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>> addition,
>>>>>>>>>> give some tips. I would write something like the text above in
>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>> page. I
>>>>>>>>>> would replace everywhere where it is a link to
>>>>>>>>>> http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/list   to this new page.
>>>>>>>>>> I saw
>>>>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>>>>> are these
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.pharo-project.org/home    (on the right)
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.pharo-project.org/documentation/faq  (in the
>>>>>>>>>> question
>>>>>>>>>> "Where do I
>>>>>>>>>> report Pharo bugs?")
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> My English is not the best at all, so any feedback is more than
>>>>>>>>>> welcome. In
>>>>>>>>>> addition, maybe you don't agree with me.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> My main purpose is to help newcomers to submit issues.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> So....here it is
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> "
>>>>>>>>>> An issue, also known as ticket,  represents many things. It can
>>>>>>>>>> be a
>>>>>>>>>> bug, a
>>>>>>>>>> enchantment,  packages, projects or commits to check, etc.
>>>>>>>>>> For the Pharo project, we use the Google Code issue tracker
>>>>>>>>>> which is
>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>> http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/list.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> - Before submitting you may take into account the following
>>>>>>>>>> tips:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 1) Search in the existent issue list if there is something
>>>>>>>>>> similar.
>>>>>>>>>> In the
>>>>>>>>>> issue tracker you will find a "search" button to do that. Be
>>>>>>>>>> aware
>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>> there is a list of options and the default one is "Open
>>>>>>>>>> ticket". It
>>>>>>>>>> is very
>>>>>>>>>> common you need to search in "All issues".
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 2) If the ticket is a bug, and there is a problem with certain
>>>>>>>>>> method,
>>>>>>>>>> search for that method or even for that class. It is very
>>>>>>>>>> common to
>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>> "MessageNotUnderstood". So, in this case you can search for
>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>> method. For
>>>>>>>>>> example, if you evaluate:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> TestCase nonExistentMethod: something other: another
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> You will get "MessageNotUnderstood: TestCase
>>>>>>>>>> class>>nonExistentMethod:other:"
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> So, here you can search for "nonExistentMethod:other:" for
>>>>>>>>>> exampe.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 3) Do the same of 1) and 2) but on the mailing list. If you are
>>>>>>>>>> new
>>>>>>>>>> or even
>>>>>>>>>> if you are not subscribed, you can see and search in the
>>>>>>>>>> mailing
>>>>>>>>>> list here:
>>>>>>>>>> http://n2.nabble.com/Pharo-Smalltalk-f2305563.html
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Sometimes some tickets are reported only in mailing list
>>>>>>>>>> (that's too
>>>>>>>>>> bad!!!). And maybe, that happened before you get subscribed in
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> mailing
>>>>>>>>>> list. This way you are sure you are searching also in the
>>>>>>>>>> mailing
>>>>>>>>>> list.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> - When you are submitting an issue there are also some tips you
>>>>>>>>>> should take
>>>>>>>>>> into account:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 1) If the issue is related to ClassBrowser, refactor or
>>>>>>>>>> similar,
>>>>>>>>>> please tell
>>>>>>>>>> us which browser are you using. If you don't know it, just
>>>>>>>>>> evaluate
>>>>>>>>>> and see
>>>>>>>>>> the results of "SystemBrowser default".
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 2) ALWAYS say which version of VM, image (not only if it is a
>>>>>>>>>> core
>>>>>>>>>> or pharo
>>>>>>>>>> image but also exactly the version) and OS are you using.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 3) If the bug is reproducible, please explain how to do it step
>>>>>>>>>> by
>>>>>>>>>> step. If
>>>>>>>>>> we have to use a particular VM, OS, or image, say it.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 4) If the bug brings a debugger popup, it would be very
>>>>>>>>>> useful if
>>>>>>>>>> you could
>>>>>>>>>> put in the issue entry the full stacktrace. To get this
>>>>>>>>>> stacktrace,
>>>>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>>>>> are 2 ways:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 4.a) Search for the generated PharoDebug.log which is in the
>>>>>>>>>> same
>>>>>>>>>> directory
>>>>>>>>>> where if image is and attached in the issue. In that file there
>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>> not only
>>>>>>>>>> the full stacktrace but also some information about the version
>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>> the VM,
>>>>>>>>>> OS and image you were using at that moment, etc.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 4.b) In the debugger, open the contextual menu and there is an
>>>>>>>>>> item
>>>>>>>>>> 'mail
>>>>>>>>>> out bug report' to directly send the stack trace with VM
>>>>>>>>>> version etc
>>>>>>>>>> to the
>>>>>>>>>> pharo list (or whoever you want to, but by default it's the
>>>>>>>>>> Pharo
>>>>>>>>>> ml). Of
>>>>>>>>>> course you can edit the message to describe your problem for
>>>>>>>>>> example.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 5) If you are not a newcomer and you know a bit you can put
>>>>>>>>>> labels
>>>>>>>>>> to the
>>>>>>>>>> issue. For example if it should be Milestone 1.0 or Type-
>>>>>>>>>> Closure, or
>>>>>>>>>> TypeOB,
>>>>>>>>>> etc.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 6) If you are not a newcomer and you know a bit you can copy
>>>>>>>>>> people
>>>>>>>>>> with the
>>>>>>>>>> "Cc:" option. This is very useful when you know that the
>>>>>>>>>> issue is
>>>>>>>>>> in a
>>>>>>>>>> certain package for example and you know who is responsible or
>>>>>>>>>> maintainer of
>>>>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 7) After submitting the issue, you must send and email to the
>>>>>>>>>> mailing list
>>>>>>>>>> with the link. What you can do also is to copy and paste the
>>>>>>>>>> details
>>>>>>>>>> of the
>>>>>>>>>> issue in the body of the email. With this, all the people know
>>>>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 8) If the ticket is a MNU it would be very useful to put that
>>>>>>>>>> message (in
>>>>>>>>>> our example "MessageNotUnderstood: TestCase
>>>>>>>>>> class>>nonExistentMethod:other:") in the description of the
>>>>>>>>>> ticket
>>>>>>>>>> or even
>>>>>>>>>> in the title of the issue and the subject of the email. With
>>>>>>>>>> this we
>>>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>>>> take advantage of the Google search engine.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 9) If you have a fix remember you must sign the MIT license
>>>>>>>>>> first.
>>>>>>>>>> For more
>>>>>>>>>> information read http://www.pharo-project.org/license
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> "
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On 2 déc. 2009, at 08:05, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 2009/12/2 laurent laffont <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> I want to check if there's updates to Slime package as I faces
>>>>>>>>>>> several bugs
>>>>>>>>>>> but  sources.lukas-renggli.ch seems to be down. Is there a
>>>>>>>>>>> mirror ?
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> About the bugs (Slime-lr.24,current pharo rc1 web image),
>>>>>>>>>>> when I
>>>>>>>>>>> select
>>>>>>>>>>> refactor > code critics:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> - it seems that ParserTreeSearcher has been renamed to
>>>>>>>>>>> RBParserTreeSearcher. Thus there's several errors like
>>>>>>>>>>> WAChangesStateWhileRenderingRule>>initialize
>>>>>>>>>>> (ParseTreeSearcher is
>>>>>>>>>>> Undeclared)
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> - this done, I have the error:
>>>>>>>>>>> AnObsoleteParseTreeSearcher(Object)>>doesNotUnderstand:
>>>>>>>>>>> #executeTree:initialAnswer:  (from
>>>>>>>>>>> RBAssignmentIfTrueRule>>checkMethod:)
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> How do I save a stack trace to a text file (or clipboard) from
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> debugger
>>>>>>>>>>> ?
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Look for the file called PharoDebug.log which is in the
>>>>>>>>>> directory
>>>>>>>>>> where the
>>>>>>>>>> image is. It will have not only the stacktrace but also much
>>>>>>>>>> more
>>>>>>>>>> information, as VM version, OS, etc.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> or....
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> In the debugger, open the contextual menu and there is an item
>>>>>>>>>> 'mail
>>>>>>>>>> out bug
>>>>>>>>>> report' to directly send the stack trace with VM version etc to
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> pharo
>>>>>>>>>> list (or whoever you want to, but by default it's the Pharo
>>>>>>>>>> ml). Of
>>>>>>>>>> course
>>>>>>>>>> you can edit the message to make it shorter (we dont need the
>>>>>>>>>> full
>>>>>>>>>> stack in
>>>>>>>>>> general) and describe your problem etc.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Mariano
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Laurent Laffont
>>>>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>>>>> Simon
>>>>>>>>>> 
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