On 18 déc. 2009, at 11:36, Bart Gauquie wrote:

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> 
> I think we should rename 1.1. It's not #alpha, it's #unstable.
> 
>        Marcus
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> I think thats a bad idea.  Pharo should also set a standard on stability. 
> It's even in the mission statement: 'By providing a stable and small core 
> system, excellent developer tools, and maintained releases'. 
> Stability means that the 'nightly build' just works: all existing things work 
> as expected, new things in development already partly work. 
> 
> Would it not be arrogantly nice to be so confident in the system, that you 
> can just take the latest release and no errors occur ? 


We dont have the resources for that right now. It requires much more tests 
(especially for a dynamic system), build and test server, also rule and quality 
checks, and even with that you cant declare it as stable.
Eclipse nightly builds are tested automatically, but are never declared as 
stable. See http://download.eclipse.org/eclipse/downloads/build_types.html
(yeah, I have a tendency to look up at eclipse whenever it comes to good 
process)

One thing we could do now is better 'monkey testing' of dev versions. Whenever 
Damien makes a new release, some people could check that the tools work with 
this release by testing basic, common features. Then they report what works and 
does not work for the given release. At least people would be aware of the 
shortcomings.

The dev build really misses a process like the core build has with integrators. 
But we can not mimic this process in dev since it integrates external packages, 
whose developers are sometimes not concerned with Pharo. I volunteer for that.


> 
> Just a thought,
> 
> Kind Regards,
> 
> Bart
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 Simon



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