On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 10:06 PM, Hernán Morales Durand <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Mariano!
>  Nice to see you liked the Dependency Browser, let's clarify some
> points about it then,
>
> 2009/12/26 Mariano Martinez Peck <[email protected]>:
> > Hi Hernán: First let me say that this tool is really great and useful. It
> is
> > helping me a lot to build the metacello configurations. Now, I have a
> couple
> > of questions:
> >
> > 1) What do the colors mean ? (red, orange, etc). I read here
> >
> http://cs.hernanmorales.com.ar/projects/dependencyBrowser/DBrowser-en.php
> > but found nothing :(
>
> Colors were originally for idenfitying dependency types of external
> packages, but the package infos names aren't normalized, E.g.
> Normalized name = "Collections", Un-normalized name =
> "Collections-Strings", hence you will see a lot of false external
> packages colorized.
>
> Orange -> Dependecy of class reference of "external" package, or class
> reference in un-normalized package name.
> Brown -> Dependency of external package loose method, or loose method
> in un-normalized package name.
> Red -> Dependency of inheritance, or inheritance in un-normalized package
> name.
> Blue -> Dependency of a unsolved binding (like a class not present in
> the image).
>

Thanks for the explanation. Now, as a good programmer you can reuse this
explanation and put it in the website :)


>
> >
> > 2) It would be EXCELLENT to be able to distinguish between PharoCore or
> > exernal packages. Suppose you are building a tool or whatever, it would
> be
> > useful to know if it all what it is required is already on a PharoCore or
> if
> > it is external (it will require to install also another packages).
> However,
> > I am not sure how implement this :(
>
> Yes, it would be cool for a new package system to implement a protocol
> for asking if a package is distributed originally in a release or not,
> like:
>
> aPackage isOfficial
>
> With so many forks around, I found difficult to find a single way to
> detect official packages installed in an image, and there should be an
> easier solution than scanning though all package dates. Maybe this has
> changed now?
>

I really don't know. Maybe we can send a separate thread asking about this.


Hey! I have more questions :)

3) Please, take a Pharo dev image and you will see that the package OCForOB
for example, only depends on OmniBrowser and OB-Standard (using dependency
browser). However, that package also depends on OCompletion I think. Look
for example the method

OBTextPanel >> createCompletionController  (category ocforob)

and you will see that it uses the class OController  which is from the
package OCompletion....So, shouldn't be OCompletion a dependency ?

4) There are certain packages that are not listed in the dependency browser.
Examples OB-Standard, OB-Morphic, O2-Standard , etc...most of them (maybe
all) seem to have the pattern XXX-YYY. Do you know what can be the problem
here? Maybe something related to what you told me about normalized and
un-normalized?  I would really like to see these packages also.

5) Why there are some packages that have their self as dependency ? For
example, take OmniBrowser and you will see that has a dependency OmniBrowser
also (as Inheritance and Reference).

Thank you very much.

Mariano



> Kind regards,
>
> Hernán
>
> >
> > Thank you very much.
> >
> > Mariano
> >
>
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