I have another idea to implement :)

It would be really cool not only to see the dependencies of a XXX package
but also, who depends on that package.

Suppose I am evaluating the package RoelTyper I would like to know which
dependencies I have (what you have already implemented) but also "who
depends on RoelTyper"

Cheers

Mariano

On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 11:58 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck <
[email protected]> wrote:

>
>
> On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 11:04 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 10:06 PM, Hernán Morales Durand <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Mariano!
>>>  Nice to see you liked the Dependency Browser, let's clarify some
>>> points about it then,
>>>
>>> 2009/12/26 Mariano Martinez Peck <[email protected]>:
>>> > Hi Hernán: First let me say that this tool is really great and useful.
>>> It is
>>> > helping me a lot to build the metacello configurations. Now, I have a
>>> couple
>>> > of questions:
>>> >
>>> > 1) What do the colors mean ? (red, orange, etc). I read here
>>> >
>>> http://cs.hernanmorales.com.ar/projects/dependencyBrowser/DBrowser-en.php
>>> > but found nothing :(
>>>
>>> Colors were originally for idenfitying dependency types of external
>>> packages, but the package infos names aren't normalized, E.g.
>>> Normalized name = "Collections", Un-normalized name =
>>> "Collections-Strings", hence you will see a lot of false external
>>> packages colorized.
>>>
>>> Orange -> Dependecy of class reference of "external" package, or class
>>> reference in un-normalized package name.
>>> Brown -> Dependency of external package loose method, or loose method
>>> in un-normalized package name.
>>> Red -> Dependency of inheritance, or inheritance in un-normalized package
>>> name.
>>> Blue -> Dependency of a unsolved binding (like a class not present in
>>> the image).
>>>
>>
>> Thanks for the explanation. Now, as a good programmer you can reuse this
>> explanation and put it in the website :)
>>
>>
>>>
>>> >
>>> > 2) It would be EXCELLENT to be able to distinguish between PharoCore or
>>> > exernal packages. Suppose you are building a tool or whatever, it would
>>> be
>>> > useful to know if it all what it is required is already on a PharoCore
>>> or if
>>> > it is external (it will require to install also another packages).
>>> However,
>>> > I am not sure how implement this :(
>>>
>>> Yes, it would be cool for a new package system to implement a protocol
>>> for asking if a package is distributed originally in a release or not,
>>> like:
>>>
>>> aPackage isOfficial
>>>
>>> With so many forks around, I found difficult to find a single way to
>>> detect official packages installed in an image, and there should be an
>>> easier solution than scanning though all package dates. Maybe this has
>>> changed now?
>>>
>>
>> I really don't know. Maybe we can send a separate thread asking about
>> this.
>>
>>
>> Hey! I have more questions :)
>>
>> 3) Please, take a Pharo dev image and you will see that the package
>> OCForOB for example, only depends on OmniBrowser and OB-Standard (using
>> dependency browser). However, that package also depends on OCompletion I
>> think. Look  for example the method
>>
>> OBTextPanel >> createCompletionController  (category ocforob)
>>
>> and you will see that it uses the class OController  which is from the
>> package OCompletion....So, shouldn't be OCompletion a dependency ?
>>
>> 4) There are certain packages that are not listed in the dependency
>> browser. Examples OB-Standard, OB-Morphic, O2-Standard , etc...most of them
>> (maybe all) seem to have the pattern XXX-YYY. Do you know what can be the
>> problem here? Maybe something related to what you told me about normalized
>> and un-normalized?  I would really like to see these packages also.
>>
>>
> Even more: AST-Core, Refactoring-Core and Refactoring-Spelling
>
> :(
>
>
>> 5) Why there are some packages that have their self as dependency ? For
>> example, take OmniBrowser and you will see that has a dependency OmniBrowser
>> also (as Inheritance and Reference).
>>
>> Thank you very much.
>>
>> Mariano
>>
>>
>>
>>> Kind regards,
>>>
>>> Hernán
>>>
>>> >
>>> > Thank you very much.
>>> >
>>> > Mariano
>>> >
>>>
>>
>>
>
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