On Dec 30, 2009, at 8:38 PM, [email protected] wrote:

> I come a little late for comment (hard day :-( ) so, I'll take profit of 
> Stef's remarks to bring up an ancillary question to the group.
> 
> Letting out the humble inclusions of a lot of hot shot programmers as 
> "beginners" and trying this from a Requirements Elicitation exercise:
> 
> What will we consider a *beginner*?

everybody that want to be considered as
        - not knowing smalltalk
        - not knowing pharo
        - programming language learner.

Stef

> 
> People that never learned a programming language and need tutoring in basics?
> 
> People that know other programming languages?  Being so shall separate the 
> efforts to teach the ones that know OO from the ones are knowledgeable in 
> procedural ones¹?
> 
> People already knowing Smalltalk but new to Pharo?
> 
> I feel that in addition to mailing list (and perhaps newsgroup), we should 
> assemble a CMS for spreading the basics and using the features of the system 
> to direct prospective users according to their needs/wishes.
> 
> my 0.019999....
> 
> --
> Cesar Rabak
> 
> 
> [1] This angst was triggered attending to a speech in Smalltalks 2009
> 
> 
> Em 30/12/2009 10:42, Stéphane Ducasse < [email protected] > escreveu:
> 
> 
> Ok 
> (we are all beginners :) at least I'm :) ).
> 
> 
> On Dec 30, 2009, at 1:35 PM, George Herolyants wrote:
> 
>> Hi
>> 
>> Maybe it would be better to name it pharo-user(s) and leave this list
>> for the developers of pharo? Because "beginner" has too narrow
>> meaning.
>> 
>> 
>> George
>> 
>> 2009/12/30 Stéphane Ducasse :
>>> Hi all
>>> 
>>> I remember that the squeak-beginner mailing-list (our ideas) was a huge 
>>> success
>>> since it enabled people to ask questions and have less mails.
>>> So a question to you: do you think that it would be good to have a 
>>> pharo-beginner mailing list?
>>> 
>>> Stef
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