Guido Stepken wrote: > > 2. Interfaces ... hmmm, well ... there are many programmes thinking in > categories of "interfaces", "libraries", "class dependencies", e.t.c. Of > course, Smalltalk is something completely different, but it makes it > difficult for s.b. e.g. coming from Java or C++, to find into Smalltalk > concepts. Gofer - till now, i have just a wage imagination, what it's good > for ... >
I have to agree that the whole, project, component, categories, packages, versioning, monticello, metacello thing is still a bit complicated, however I do believe the Pharo team is working hard on this and I think it will get straightened out a bit soon. Guido Stepken wrote: > > 3. GUI builder. IMHO, it's very easy to build a GUI with morphic. In > Squeak, e.g. i simply generate my input forms with EToys, which can be > replaced of course by a few lines of code typed in by hand ... But for > developers coming from Java, C++ ... the first ask for a GUI builder and > XAML e.t.c. There should be some documentation, that leads programmers, > that are willing to switch over to Smalltalk, into the right direction. > Just a few examples, e.g. how to build a form, that scrolls through some > MySQL data sets, really would help. What about compatibility? Is Morphic > portable to other Smalltalks? > Assuming you are considering web apps too I would have a look at seaside (which has been ported to a number of smalltalk dialects) or AIDAWeb. From what I understand so far seaside (AIDAWeb will have something similar) has a nice concept of canvas and brushes. It does still lack some sort of nice 4GL GUI WYSIWYG painter .... but I guess you can build one yourself :) Guido Stepken wrote: > > 6. Databases: Magma seems to be fine as database, but also dog slow. I > really hesitate to start serious projects with Magma. > I believe there is more than just Magma though ... how about GOODS, SqueakDBX project, SandstoneDB, GemStone's GLASS ... For a serious (if that refers to big?) project I think you ought to look at GemStone. Guido Stepken wrote: > > Keep up the good work on Pharo, it's still a long way to go! > I agree the Pharo team has come a long way in a fairly short time! Go Pharo :) -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Developer-guide-tp4233838p4235891.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [email protected] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
