See below for Josephs answer regarding Ginsu.


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Datum: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 11:39:19 +0100
Von: Joseph Pelrine <...>
An: Torsten Bergmann <...>
CC: ..., ...
Betreff: Re: Gardening/ScriptManager

Hi Torsten,

Torsten Bergmann wrote:
> Below a reply from Joseph. Thanks, I changed the ScriptManager project 
> http://www.squeaksource.com/ScriptManager.html to MIT license. 
> I think the mail is enough since Joseph already signed the agreement 
> for Pharo (according to the ListOfOkCommitters on the wiki)!
> 
> Maybe Metacello development can profit from Ginsu, dont know. Had no time
> to follow all the details at http://code.google.com/p/metacello.
I wouldn't be surprised, since Dale also worked for Digitalk, and heard 
the same ideas about modularity etc. that I did.
> 
> Squeak-dev is currently also discussing the need of a package management 
> system
>  (Sake/Bob, Metacello, maybe Ginsu). Time will tell. Would be nice if there 
> would be only one sharable across Squeak, Cuis and Pharo (and other 
> Smalltalks).
I had taken Ginsu much further, and had it running over multiple 
dialects with multiple back-end possibilities (I couldn't give up on 
ENVY for Squeak :-)
> 
> I cant remember all the details of Ginsu beside that it was working (and 
> dont have a World tour image here) - it had a declarative model similar 
> to Metacello. If I remember correctly Joseph used XML (simílar to Maven) 
> instead
> of a code spec as Metacello does.
I had used code specs in Smalltalk, similar to the specs Alan Knight and 
I describe in the ENVY book. Saves you needing an XML parser in the base 
image. IIRC, John implemented an XML version for SWT.
> 
> Joseph, regarding Ginsu it would be nice to have an MIT release too so others 
> can have a look. Maybe someone can publish the last world tour image too. 
> Thanks!
Since I haven't worked on it for a while now, I'll have to see what the 
latest version I have looks like, and what I'd want to put out publicly.

Cheers
Joseph

> 
> Bye
> T.
> 
> 
> 
> Torsten Bergmann wrote:
> [SNIP]>
>> If Joseph agrees to have the code as MIT we may also be able to include
>> it in the Pharo-dev image.
>>
>> Bye
>> T.
>>
>> [1] 
>> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/squeak-dev/2010-January/143674.html
>>   
>>   
> Thanks for forwarding this. I'm quite happy with having ScriptManager as 
> MIT licensed (what do I need to do to make that official?). I don't 
> remember which license the World Tour stuff was under, but that's been a 
> loong time. Also, Ginsu is still around and working quite well, when 
> Pharo finally gets far enough that it would be useful to include it :-)
> 
> Cheers
> 

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