Squeak != Pharo.  We're happy to interact, but the mission statement is more 
than just words.

With respect to marginalization, I'm not writing portable web apps, which is 
exactly my point: web technologies have their purposes and limitations, and 
attempts to use them as some type of intergalactic-fix-all is probably going to 
work out poorly.

Bill



-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Eagle Offshore
Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 9:02 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Scamper revival

Squeak - Pharo - same thing.

I didn't say it would wipe out Smalltalk's place in the world - I said it will 
fulfill its mission - which is one more level of marginalization.  At this 
point, it is easier to write a portable desktop app in a webkit based browser 
than it is to write one in Pharo.


On Mar 1, 2010, at 4:20 AM, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote:

> First, I'm not using Squeak.  Second, this is not the first time I've heard 
> that xyz was going to wipe out Smalltalk's place in the world, and I doubt it 
> will be the last.
> 
> Bill
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Eagle Offshore [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 12:09 AM
> To: Schwab,Wilhelm K
> Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Scamper revival
> 
> Then what are you doing with Squeak? :-) The browsers support offline 
> development with local databases in HTML 5.  This is here, now.  They will 
> replace squeak's mission in about another three years.  Probably less.
> 
> On Feb 28, 2010, at 12:04 PM, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote:
> 
>> There is the further concern about the browser.  It wastes screen space 
>> (which is at a premium) and adds weight and distracting functionality.  
>> There is something to be said for the a fat client app that does what it 
>> needs to do and nothing else.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected]
>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
>> Eagle Offshore
>> Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 2:23 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Scamper revival
>> 
>> I wouldn't be so sure.
>> 
>> http://html5demos.com/
>> http://jqtouch.com/
>> 
>> On Feb 27, 2010, at 4:41 PM, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote:
>> 
>>> there is no way in hell that HTML+CSS+JavaScript is going to keep up
>> 
>> 
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