Stef,

There is a part of me that wants 1.1 tomorrow<g> to get Alien and full freedom 
to use underscores, among other things.  Briefly on $_, it came back up on 
squeak-dev, with the usual polarity and screams of doom due to poor aesthetics. 
 It is and IMHO always will be a consideration of external interfacing and 
avoiding name collisions.

Back on topic, tests are good thing.  As far as how I can help, a good starting 
point will be to clean up my image build process.  It appears to do a good job 
of identifying work that I have failed to package and saving the packages I 
have flagged as mine.  I wonder about possible problems with dependencies among 
packages, but can't say that I have had problems with that; for whatever 
reason, "cyclic dependencies" magage to terrorize every new Dolphin user at 
some point :)  I am unclear on whether Dolphin is too pedantic, Pharo is too 
relaxed (and somehow manages to "clean up the messes later"), or whether I am 
not pushing Pharo hard enough to have problems.

Regardless of the details above, I need to revise the load step of my build, 
and I have been hoping that Loader will appear so I can rewrite it once rather 
than twice.  I noticed mention today that SqueakSource was down (appears ok 
now).  Not meaning to complain about a free service, it hit me once before and 
I had to add complexity to my builds to work around it; I had thought about 
taking that out, but a local-only option appears important.  I am unclear on 
how to do that with Metacello - any ideas?

I was going to ask about Citezen and Metacello, but the SqueakSource wiki page 
shows instructions for it.  I will try to test it soon.

Bill





-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Stéphane 
Ducasse
Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2010 6:06 PM
To: Pharo Development
Subject: [Pharo-project] A pause... for tests and orthogonal concerns

hi guys

I was discussing with pavel and I like his point. I would like to do a kind of 
pause and fix the tests. Improve a bit the fact that we get more tests 
incrementally to avoid regression.
Tell what you think and think how you could help.

Stef
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