On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 3:12 PM, Torsten Bergmann <[email protected]> wrote:

> Mariano Martinez Peck wrote on [1]:
> >I don't agree here. You DON'T necessary need to have the packages inside
> the
> >image to have a UI.
>
> Please read what I wrote.


I never, never, answer an email without reading. Ever.


> I did not say that it is impossible
> to build the UI when you have an external config - but "it would
> be easy to build a UI" when it is already in the image. I'm sure
> you will agree here.
>

Probably. But then you have to create  a new tools with a UI, update (you
will need to update the configurations, etc).


>
> However - even when SqueakMap is not well maintained - it's UI
> was easy to use and was easy accessible and one could use it
> with a few clicks.
>

Ok...but I still think there is not too much difference: In SM you have to:
- first do always an update
-  browse categories, search the pacakge , select it, then select the
version (hopefully you know which version works in THAT verion of squeak)

Is this really too different to browse a repo with MonticelloBrowser and
just load it ?  The only thing we don't have is categories.


>
> Using Monticello tools, loading and evaluating by hand is
>

Not necessary. We can put a class side method initialize that does a self
project version: 'theVersionThatWorksInPharo1.0' load
and wala! not necessary even to create load method. No need to evaluate
nothing by hand. Just browse, select a package, and click load button. And
there, you are SURE you will load the version that works with that Pharo
version.


> currently possible - but this is a step backward in usability
> compared to what Squeak has/had. But this is a convenience/tool
> issue that has to be solved.
>

I even think that maybe managing projects "polymorphicly"  with the same
tool (Monticello Browser) is a nice idea. At least for a first step. If this
infrastructure works well, there will be probably someone with time and
willing to do a particular tool for what you want.

Cheers

Mariano


> Bye
> T.
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