On Jun 29, 2010, at 6:15 PM, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote:

> Stef,
> 
> It all sounds great.  I probably care less about Alien than I do about what 
> it is supposed to do well: callbacks.  We need callbacks, and we need to be 
> able to do callbacks that return double.  That can come from Alien, Native 
> Boost, or a plugin that makes FFI able to handle callbacks.  Callbacks should 
> not come at a cost of making every call harder to do, which **might** be the 
> case with Alien.

the only way to make progress on this front is to propose some code.

> It would also be nice to have an analog to Dolphin's overlapped calls (calls 
> made on a separate thread that block only the calling Smalltalk process, and 
> not the entire image).

I think that eliot is working on threaded something for Cog
> 
> SSL would also be nice.  Overlapped calls would greatly simplify creating it, 
> as then one could safely use OpenSSL's blocking calls on separate threads.  
> The alternative is to do non-blocking calls, which is considerably more work 
> than letting the OS handle the multi-tasking.
> 
> Bill
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] 
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Stéphane 
> Ducasse
> Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2010 3:32 AM
> To: Pharo Development
> Subject: [Pharo-project] 1.2 vision
> 
> Hi all
> 
> Of course we will integrate changes and changes and improvements.... now I 
> believe that it would be nice to build a common vision. Here what I would 
> like to get in 1.2.
> 
> Now it does not mean that this is a definitive list and that we will have the 
> energy to do all but like that you know that you can put energy do build this 
> common vision :)
> 
>       - better infrastructure for integrating rb composite queries into the 
> system 
>               The idea is to introduce a superclass on top of 
> systemDictionary and to define there an API that 
>               is compatible with the one of RB (and potentially modified the 
> one of RB)
> 
>       - another step towards using announcement for system notification
> 
>       - better tools for dev
> 
>       - have a look at the RB change model so that we could get a real undo 
> and changes
> 
>       - clean Monticello so that package logic stays in package so that we 
> can plug RPackage into the system.
>       Right now this looks too brittle to do anything
> 
>       - make sure that we can have RPackage on the side of PakageInfo (we got 
> really nice benchmark)
> 
>       - New Compiler in beta
> 
>       - Helvetia hooks
> 
>       - ROME API
> 
>       - Sophie Event Hierarchy
> 
>       - Define some architectural action to get the system more modular
> 
>       - Hudson infrastructure
> 
>       - metacello to manage core
> 
>       - metacelloRepository for 1.0/1.1/1.2
>               Gofer
> 
>       - squeak collection optimisation?
> 
>       - Alien
> 
> Open points:
> 
>       - What do we do with ToolBuilder? Not clear to me.
> 
>       - What should be done at the level of polymorph?
>               - What should be done a the level of Pluggable**** 
>                       can we use the fact that we have now block closure to 
> get it better.
> 
> As you guess it will not come simply but this is important that we all head 
> towards a common understanding
> 
> 
> Stef
> 
> 
> 
> 
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