If you are generating XML, perhaps that should be left to SIXX??  The result 
should be very close to Dolphin's ViewComposer, which is a very powerful tool.  
There are some traps to avoid with conversion of the serializer's output, but I 
can hopefully advise on where those might arise.  It's unclear to me whether 
Dolphin's "recent" conversion to view resources as source code is a bad idea or 
simply under-supported in the area of conversion of existing view resources.  
Serializer output worked, with some caveats of dependence on layout changes and 
limitations on browsing into view resources, at least when they are in their 
dormant state.  We are starting with real closures, dodging a bullet that hurt 
Dolphin.



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laffont
Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 9:15 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] CLFramework and Pharo


On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 3:55 PM, nullPointer 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

>> I believe is best create another from scratch,
>> but with WPF like model and XAML
>> as UI definition language. That is for people with best knowledges.
>
> I'm not convinced that we cannot learn from your development.


Because is needed change the current exposition to something like that:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-T-yF3tXCc&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RyO7v06xlWM&feature=related

Forget for a moment that is from M$  XD  The wonderful of that is the language
for define the UI interface, XAML, where you can describe not only basic
propertys of "morph" like colors or positions, but too animations, mouseOver
effects, timers, movies... And you can use editors of XAML, external from
environment, for create more rich UIs.

I don't think WPF/XAML/whatever is good or bad (indeed I don't care :). But I 
think there's lot of value in having UIBuilder with "old mechanism" *now*. Do 
you think we can easily get it out of experimental / alpha state ? Or is there 
design/architecture mistakes such as thinking of creating applications with it 
is harmful ?

For the future, something based on Morphic 3 isn't the right way ?

Cheers,

Laurent


The current UIBuilder is based on old mechanism for build views, and surely with
a lot of errors. I believe that that is the best direction for something more
new and correct.


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