I would be interested in any attempts to produce native bytecode on java vm for pharo. Now this is the usual equation: money and money or time. JSqueak or Potatos squeak could be also interesting.
Stef On Mar 3, 2011, at 11:02 PM, Göran Krampe wrote: > On 03/03/2011 03:37 PM, Torsten Bergmann wrote: >> What is the state of Squeak/Pharo/Cuis for Android tablets and phone? >> Lots of questions: >> - what is the state of VM/images? >> - any comments/hints on devices, speed and memory consumption? >> - is it worth to buy one to run Smalltalk for own stuff? >> - anyone written apps with Smalltalk for Android? >> - is it possible to interface with native stuff. state of >> touch support, ... > > Generally speaking, here are my silly notions in this area: > > - Android is heavily oriented around Dalvik and the libraries for it (Java) > > - Android will be *the* platform for private computing in the near future > IMHO. Yes, I really think so. Android 3.0 looks really hot. > > - A Squeak/Pharo/Cuis for Android will never be more than a toy unless we can > tap into the Dalvik/Java platform. > > - This means we REALLY need JNIPort or similar projects to work really, > really well in order to actually use the libraries in full. > > ...or we need to get Squeak running inside/on-top-of Dalvik somehow. > > Weird ideas: > - PotatoSqueak is a port of the Squeak VM to java. Run that on Dalvik > and hey... > - PySqueak using Pypy could probably generate a fast Squeak VM running > in java bytecode which possibly also could be run on Dalvik. > > Both the above approaches would probably make interfacing with Dalvik/Java > much simpler. > > ...or just try using SilverSmalltalk or such. ;) > > > regards, Göran >
