Sounds intriguing :)

Doru


On 4 Mar 2011, at 22:30, Janko Mivšek wrote:

> .. there is a native Smalltalk on JavaScript VM on the way .. stay
> tuned! (but not from me .. ;)
> 
> Such Smalltalk app can be then wrapped in pure Android, iOS etc. app
> with technology like PhoneGap (http://www.phonegap.com).
> 
> I'm namely just preparing a presentation titled From Web to Android App
> for tommorow local MobileCamp:Android http://www.mobilecamp.si/what/ ...
> 
> Janko
> 
> On 04. 03. 2011 11:04, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
>> I would be interested in any attempts to produce native bytecode on java vm 
>> for pharo.
>> Now this is the usual equation: money and money or time. 
>> JSqueak or Potatos squeak could be also interesting. 
>> 
>> Stef
>> 
>> 
>> On Mar 3, 2011, at 11:02 PM, Göran Krampe wrote:
>> 
>>> On 03/03/2011 03:37 PM, Torsten Bergmann wrote:
>>>> What is the state of Squeak/Pharo/Cuis for Android tablets and phone?
>>>> Lots of questions:
>>>> - what is the state of VM/images?
>>>> - any comments/hints on devices, speed and memory consumption?
>>>> - is it worth to buy one to run Smalltalk for own stuff?
>>>> - anyone written apps with Smalltalk for Android?
>>>> - is it possible to interface with native stuff. state of
>>>>   touch support, ...
>>> 
>>> Generally speaking, here are my silly notions in this area:
>>> 
>>> - Android is heavily oriented around Dalvik and the libraries for it (Java)
>>> 
>>> - Android will be *the* platform for private computing in the near future 
>>> IMHO. Yes, I really think so. Android 3.0 looks really hot.
>>> 
>>> - A Squeak/Pharo/Cuis for Android will never be more than a toy unless we 
>>> can tap into the Dalvik/Java platform.
>>> 
>>> - This means we REALLY need JNIPort or similar projects to work really, 
>>> really well in order to actually use the libraries in full.
>>> 
>>> ...or we need to get Squeak running inside/on-top-of Dalvik somehow.
>>> 
>>> Weird ideas:
>>>     - PotatoSqueak is a port of the Squeak VM to java. Run that on Dalvik 
>>> and hey...
>>>     - PySqueak using Pypy could probably generate a fast Squeak VM running 
>>> in java bytecode which possibly also could be run on Dalvik.
>>> 
>>> Both the above approaches would probably make interfacing with Dalvik/Java 
>>> much simpler.
>>> 
>>> ...or just try using SilverSmalltalk or such. ;)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> regards, Göran
>>> 
>> 
> 

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