On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 6:51 AM, Stéphane Ducasse
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hi Esteban. I DID notice that the book was "outdated". The thing is that we 
>> have to decide, as the Pharo community, if it is outdated or just another 
>> alternative.
>> Eliot's way of building the VM is different than "our". We use 
>> ConfigurationOfCog + CMakeVMMaker + Git. Eliot uses another way.
>> So what is documented in the pharo book is kind of Eliot way.
>> We have to decide as a community what do we expect when building cog. Is 
>> ConfigurationOfCog + CMakeVMMaker + Git the OFFICIAL Pharo way of building 
>> the VM?  If we do agree on this, then yes, we should update the book. 
>> Something different is if ConfigurationOfCog + CMakeVMMaker + Git is just 
>> ANOTHER way of bulding the VM, in which case I don't see as incorrect what 
>> is in the pharo book.
>
>
> Guess my answer :)
> Why would we throw away the three months igor spent making sure that idiot 
> like me can compile the VM without problems.
> And more important Git (which I hate for my article) is socially the way to 
> go for the VM = message to cool C hackers
> yes you are welcome to clean and improve our VM (it deserves it and once of 
> these days we will have to do something… because
> we are losing against simpler, nicer VM like lua (C-embedding, ….).
> JB is fighting to get the stack vm compiling on a funky micro pro and the VM 
> dusty code is getting in our way.

+1
I would love to use Pharo to do more robotics/embedded stuff. For
example, i would like to be able to connect C/C++ computer vision
libraries like OpenCV with FFI/Alien.
But this is still difficult to do that in Pharo. I don't have the
energy and man-power to invest time in this direction. If i ask some
students do to this work, i know that they will have a lot of
difficulties and at end the experience will be not very funny.

Regards,
-- 
Serge Stinckwich
UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC), Hanoi, Vietnam
Matsuno Laboratory, Kyoto University, Japan (until 12/2011)
http://www.mechatronics.me.kyoto-u.ac.jp/
Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk
http://doesnotunderstand.org/

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