>> I didn't, but wait. What does this intall? Why not to simply package the 
>> libraries with the VM?
> 
> because it is a third-party library.
> To me, your proposal sounds similar to "why not simply package
> Operating System libraries with the VM".
> Because in this case you need cairo. But in case of OpenGL, you will
> need opengl libs.. so "package everything" goes nowhere.
> 
>> I tried once to use port/fink and I broke the internal of OSX, after having 
>> downloaded 500 Mb.
>> 
> i know that using external libs sometimes is painful. But this is like
> that. And we're not alone with these problems.
> I think there's many other software which have to deal with it.
> 
> Another solution is to implement everything by own :)


Well... The Cairo libraries are shipped with VisualWorks. When I install VW, 
I've just say that I want Cairo, and everything works well. I have played a bit 
with Cairo on VW and I am quite happy so far. 
I would not have played with it if I had to install the lib externally with 
port/fink.
I personally would not mind to have the virtual machine twice as big if cairo 
is shipped with it.

I think it depends on what do you want to do in the mid-long term: throwing 
away the squeak bitmap rendering and using Cairo for real? What should be the 
external library, the squeak bitmap rendering or Cairo?

Alexandre

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