On Sep 28, 2012, at 10:35 PM, Fernando Olivero wrote: > Hi, > > maybe in Pharo some of these keyboard shortcuts were removed (for > now), but providing the same operations via pop-up menus doesn't make > it a modal UI. One could argue that remembering and triggering > keyboard shortcuts simply avoids showing the menu at all, at the > expense of a big VI-like learning curve . > > The community behind Pharo does not want modes in the UI!
Indeed I do not really understanding are saying that :) > Of course for power users, remembering tons of shortcuts might be > better (not for me though), but there are plans to add default and > customizable keybindings ( using the work of Guille Polito). people are talking often but do not know :) We can control nautilus with a lot of shortcut driven by speedy and really efficient programmers like camillo and guillermo so it would be good to check before talking. Stef > > Fernando > > > > On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 9:40 PM, Chris Muller <[email protected]> wrote: >>> yes, exactly like this: http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/900 >>> >>> Bert Freudenberg added the following: >>> >>> Tip: You do not have to perform a "find" for the "replace" to work. >>> Just select a word you want to have replaced, overtype it with your >>> new word, and hit (ctrl-j). Very handy for renaming variables. >>> >>> This would be perfect. >> >> You should not expect that -- Pharo used to have it but it was removed >> in favor of a more mainstream editor look-and-feel -- so that it be >> would more attractive to new users. Command+J / Control+J are just >> two of several powerful code-editing capabilities Pharo originally >> inherited from Squeak, along with my other favorites Command+E = >> Exchange the last two selections and Command+[, (, {, or | = Surround >> the highlighted text with that bracket-type pair. (not sure if those >> are still there in Pharo). >> >> Pharo favors _familiarity_ for new users somewhat at the cost of >> productivity for its experienced users. It somewhat resembles eclipse >> -- with pop-up dialogs and a seemingly "modal" philosophy. Squeak, by >> constrast, has kept pushing the "simple-but-powerful" philosphy of its >> IDE to near extremes. While it's less familiar for new uesrs, once >> learned, general navigation and editing require _far fewer_ gestures. >> >
