On 2013-04-04, at 20:10, Sven Van Caekenberghe <s...@stfx.eu> wrote:

> 
> On 04 Apr 2013, at 19:58, Marcus Denker <marcus.den...@inria.fr> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> On Apr 4, 2013, at 7:52 PM, Camillo Bruni <camillobr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> On 2013-04-04, at 18:51, Igor Stasenko <siguc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On 4 April 2013 17:38, Camillo Bruni <camillobr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 2013-04-04, at 16:11, Igor Stasenko <siguc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 4 April 2013 15:45, Esteban Lorenzano <esteba...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> really?
>>>>>>> please, add an issue in the tracker and submit a slice, as everybody 
>>>>>>> else.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> calm down, we're just discussing here.
>>>>>> I provided code here intentionally for nay-sayers like you to try it
>>>>>> and to check if it not breaks
>>>>>> something else (your workflow).
>>>>> 
>>>>> Igor, not Esteban's workflow.. OUR WORKFLOW!
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Sure sure. Now have you tried the code which i sent if it works/breaks for 
>>>> you?
>>>> 
>>>> Or i should spend like 10 minutes filing the issue before figuring
>>>> that it is unacceptable?
>>> 
>>> What the fuck do you think the rest does?
>>> 
>>>> https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?10228
>>> 
>>> |( well the issue is the main entry point. If the code does not work
>>> you will be notified VIA the issue => manageed entity 
>>> 
>>> However how you solve this issue right now is by some fuzzy undefined 
>>> process
>>> nobody manages. If you think that this change is worth getting into pharo 
>>> then 
>>> you open an issue and attach the SLICE (no changeset, SLICES).
>>> 
>>> Then the whole machinery starts, people (INCLUDING YOU) look at the issues.
>>> Issue get rejected, modified, adapted!
>>> 
>>> What you show here is IGNORANCE on a higher level.
>>> YOU IGNORE A WHOLE DAMN DEVELOPMENT PROCESS PEOPLE USE EVERY DAY.
>> 
>> But I think Igor was proposing exactly that what esteban was already arguing 
>> agains?
>> In that case an issue tracker entry makes not much sense, we first need to 
>> discuss what
>> to do.
>> 
>>      Marcus
> 
> That is also how I understood it: he posted a quick hack asking for feedback, 
> the next step would be to make an issue and proper slice [ which indeed he 
> has to learn to do like everybody else ] - I must admit that I am also still 
> struggling with the new issue tracker (mainly because of lack of time), I 
> miss the old one that I was used to.

I am sorry for my outburst (again)... but my arguments stay since they stand
unanswered since january.



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