On May 6, 2013, at 9:11 AM, Norbert Hartl <norb...@hartl.name> wrote:
> > Am 06.05.2013 um 08:00 schrieb Denis Kudriashov <dionisi...@gmail.com>: > >> Hello. >> >> What about logging levels? >> >> I like "logInfo:", "logDebug:", "logTrace:". Or maybe it is better to split >> log with levels: "self log info:", "self log debug:", "self log trace:" >> > I think that opens a can of worms. What Stef wants is a "say something" > method that is easy to use and commonly useful. Adding logging levels is a > specialized form of logging that is not commonly useful, it's just commonly > used in less reflective environments. > So my proposal would be to have an equivalent to "self log" where you can > return your own logging facility on which you can do "self log info: > 'something'". > > I changed my kind of logging some time ago. I just log objects. A log object > isn't much more than to put it on top of a collection. While I'm not using > strings for logging I have objects where I can attach all my use case > dependent stuff. You could even put something like a log level information in > those objects. > I log Errors as well as progress state objects,etc. It is easy to process the > whole log collection (now or afterwards) because all necessary state is still > there. Yes!!! > Another reason why I don't like strings for that is that I put the log > messages as json in elasticsearch/mongo because I want to query them to find > errornous behaviour. Well, sometimes I do both: Store it in a database and > write it to disk. Because I don't convert it to a string at first possible > time I can do that easily. > > We don't put sources in files so we shouldn't put log information only there. > Make logging information a first class citizen! Yes this is what I'm doing right now. So back to coding….. > > Norbert > >> Best regards, >> Denis >> >> 2013/5/5 Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.duca...@inria.fr> >> Hi guys >> >> Stupidly I introduced log: a while ago to replace Transcript show:. Now is >> the current situation. >> >> I still want to remove all the use of Transcript show: >> >> Now since I thought I did a mistake with log: because it overload >> Integer>>log: I introduced trace: and traceCr: >> >> Now I do not like traceCr: because it is not a cool message. >> >> So what do we do: >> >> 1) we use crLog:, logCr: >> and deprecated log: >> >> >> 2) we use crTrace:, trace: and traceCr: >> >> I really prefer solution 1 but I would like to hear from you. >> >> Stef >> >
