On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 1:41 PM, andres <[email protected]>wrote:

> Stef, Doru:
>                 first of all I was *asking if* such a model exists, not
> demanding one. Having just entered the Pharo world I wanted to know how you
> guys handle the feature requests. I see now.
>
> On the other hand if you really want to discuss the question of "who has
> the rights for asking for X" in the open source model I'm open, but just to
> be sure I will first ask: Is it ok to open such a thread? Or should I first
> contribute to Pharo before asking?
>

Asking is a form of contribution and is important because this is what
creates a community and how we can learn. It enables communication and this
is good. And your question is a valuable question. (well, unless people keep
asking over and over the same question without searching in the mailing-list
archive....)

And actually the best answer I think is: if you want feature X, you have two
ways to get it:
A/ pay someone for doing it
B/ do it yourself and share so other people may help you

Today in Pharo the most used way is B (and I think this is true for most
open source project). But may be you have (lot of) money :)

So if you think something like UserVoice may sounds good, just try it and
share. Darwinism will tell whether it is a good idea or not.

Honestly I'm curious about what ideas can people put in a voting system and
what they can vote on. Maybe newcomers won't be shy to vote (comparing to
sending an email).  Now  whether the ideas will be implemented is just a
matter of choice between A and B.

Cheers,

Laurent



> Andrés
>
> Tudor Girba escribió:
>
>  +1.
>>
>> Doru
>>
>>
>> On 7 Dec 2010, at 12:39, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
>>
>>  Hi andres
>>>
>>>> Thanks Mariano! I was looking for something more "formal", to let user's
>>>> vote for features and a commitment of the dev team to include N of the most
>>>> voted per release (of course N depends on the release cycle and the feature
>>>> complexity).
>>>>
>>> Well well well
>>> When people are not able to pay 10 Euros for pharo (we did a poll and got
>>> 5 positive answers) why would they have the right to vote for something that
>>> we would be forced to do? This is an interesting question, no?
>>>
>>> We are not in the consumer model here. We (the people around pharo core)
>>> are fixing the infrastructure so that everybody benefit from it, we can be
>>> influenced
>>> but not much. The only influence we deeply understand is
>>> ***Contributions*** with either videos, pdf, ads, promotion actions or ST
>>> code.
>>>
>>> So if you want something to happen for real in pharo then you should
>>> consider how you can make this happens.
>>>
>>> Stef
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> --
>> www.tudorgirba.com
>>
>> "What is more important: To be happy, or to make happy?"
>>
>>
>>
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