Thanks for your answers Benjamin. After reading the chapter I should note the plugin architecture seems very promising, as you've said it, very different from OB. So to create my own browser should I subclass Nautilus? which hook methods should I check first?
Some usability issues: When I do "Find class...", type Object and Ok, it takes some time to display the class on the browser. Maybe it would be nice to preload first N methods in the method list? (i'm thinking in performance when browsing large lists). When I bring the menu over a class, there is no "browse hierarchy" option, is this option missing on purpose? Cheers, Hernán 2012/6/23 Benjamin <benjamin.vanryseghem.ph...@gmail.com> > You can found some doc here: > http://rmod.lille.inria.fr/web/pier/software/Tools-Improvement/NautilusDocumentation > > For Pharo 1.4, I try to maintain it a bit, but my focus is on the > integration of Nautilus in Pharo 2.0 > > Ben > > On Jun 23, 2012, at 4:32 PM, Hernán Morales Durand wrote: > > For Nautilus I've read a review blog post at > http://marianopeck.wordpress.com/2012/02/26/nautilus-the-reborn-of-the-systembrowser/but > I didn't found anything else, maybe I'm missing something? > > I've installed Nautilus with the following script in a clean Pharo 1.4 core > > Gofer it > url: 'http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/Nautilus'; > package: 'ConfigurationOfNautilus'; > load. > > (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfNautilus) perform: #loadRelease > > but after some random clicks I've received a SubscriptOutOfBounds > exception. I've attached the stack from the debugger and a screenshot. > > Hernán > > 2012/6/23 Benjamin <benjamin.vanryseghem.ph...@gmail.com> > >> What have you read already ? >> >> Ben >> >> On Jun 23, 2012, at 7:18 AM, Hernán Morales Durand wrote: >> >> Hello Benjamin, >> >> 2012/6/22 Benjamin <benjamin.vanryseghem.ph...@gmail.com> >> >>> Hello :) >>> >>> This is a nice challenge :) >>> Firstly, you have to know that the model behind Nautilus is really >>> different that the one behind OB. Let's say nothing in common. >>> On the other hand, the code pane modification can be made within an hour >>> (maybe two if you are not confident with morphic, but it doesn't seems to >>> be the case) using the plugin mecanism (Johan Fabry can testify ^^). >>> >> >> Ok, let us know when more Nautilus documentation is available. >> >> >>> Then, Nautilus is not cross platform, but we have developed Spec with >>> the goal to use it for Nautilus, and Spec is(will be ^^) cross platform. So >>> one day, Nautilus will be cross platform. Sadly, I will not be soon (I have >>> to rewrite the whole ui). >>> >>> >> thanks for the clarification and status update >> >> >> >>> About the command definition, I am not an OB expert, but I think that >>> Command are used for menu entries. >>> In Nautilus the menus definition are based on pragma, so any class can >>> extend Nautilus menus. >>> >>> >> Yes, commands in OB are used to define menu entries and their behavior. >> >> >> >>> In a nutshell, what I have seen in the video is doable in roughly a >>> couple of hours :) >>> If you decide to give a try to Nautilus, let me know, and I will be glad >>> to help/answer question/provide pieces of code etc :) >>> >>> >> Thanks for your reply, I will be in touch. >> >> Hernán >> >> >> >>> Ben >>> >>> >>> On Jun 22, 2012, at 8:14 AM, Hernán Morales Durand wrote: >>> >>> First let me apologize for asking without properly evaluating first. I >>> took some time and read about Nautilus which it seems a very nice work. >>> I've developed a phylogenetics classifier using OmniBrowser, but I wondered >>> if Nautilus could save me some effort, and I'm planning to test Pharo 1.4 >>> or 2.0 in some future in which AFAIK OmniBrowser will not be supported >>> anymore. >>> >>> - Some time ago I've modified the OmniBrowser framework to browse >>> anything I wanted in the "code pane" (the lower pane typically used for >>> displaying/editing code), as we had a complex OODB it was very useful, see >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxUaOFRHFPk for a demo. However it was >>> not easy to understand the OB internals and make the modifications. Have >>> you tried to implement such feature in Nautilus? >>> - There is documentation for developing browsers with Nautilus? >>> Something which explains the basic architecture, how it differs from OB? >>> for example: >>> --Do you have to define a metagraph? >>> --May I have multiple definition panels? >>> -Do you have a mapping for each node type (class?) with each column? >>> -OB is not cross-UI (it depends on Morphic). Can I use a Nautilus >>> browser within a web browser? >>> - Another thing which is really easy is to define Commands in OB, >>> (although the #isActive logic could become a mess without some care). How >>> it is different in Nautilus? >>> >>> I'm sure I would rewrite my browsers with Nautilus, my key question is >>> how much of the OB knowledge I can re-use? >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Hernán >>> >>> -- >>> Hernán Morales >>> Institute of Veterinary Genetics. >>> National Scientific and Technical Research Council (CONICET). >>> La Plata (1900), Buenos Aires, Argentina. >>> Telephone: +54 (0221) 421-1799. >>> Internal: 422 >>> Fax: 425-7980 or 421-1799. >>> >>> >>> >>
