Hi Hernán,
Here are some pointers about Glamour:
- Glamour is an engine for building browsers (not user interfaces, like Spec).
From the goal point of view, it is similar to OmniBrowser. However, the
concepts behind are different: Glamour can cover significantly more browser
flows and presentations, and it offers a DSL.
- Load it in Pharo 1.4 (this loads also several prerequisites):
Gofer new
squeaksource: 'Glamour';
package: 'ConfigurationOfGlamour';
load.
ConfigurationOfGlamour loadDevelopment.
- You can also load only the core by:
(ConfigurationOfGlamour project version: 'default') load: #('Core' 'Morhic')
- Browse the built-in examples:
GLMBasicExamples open.
- Read the chapter from The Moose Book:
http://www.themoosebook.org/book/internals/glamour
You can ask more questions about Glamour also on the Moose mailing list:
http://www.moosetechnology.org/about/contact
Cheers,
Doru
On 23 Jun 2012, at 07:09, Hernán Morales Durand wrote:
> Hi Esteban
>
> Would you mind to share some link or more comments about Glamour? It would be
> really nice to see how to do anything beyond code browsing.
> Cheers,
>
> Hernán
>
> 2012/6/22 Esteban Lorenzano <[email protected]>
> and btw... for that kind of work is incredible simpler to use glamour (you
> can have exactly the same browser in 15'... I know that because I made it for
> mongo databases :).
> At the unique price of load glamour.
>
> Esteban
>
> On Jun 22, 2012, at 9:16 AM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
>
> > do not confuse Nautilus and Spec. Nautilus is (or should be) defined using
> > Spec.
> >
> > Spec is the framework for building UI. We are slowly rewriting all the
> > tools based on spec while learning and improving Spec.
> > Ideally we would like to be able to reuse a builder PAINTER (a tool to
> > place widgets on the screen) and to generate Spec.
> >
> > Stef
> >
> > On Jun 22, 2012, at 8:14 AM, Hernán Morales Durand wrote:
> >
> >> First let me apologize for asking without properly evaluating first. I
> >> took some time and read about Nautilus which it seems a very nice work.
> >> I've developed a phylogenetics classifier using OmniBrowser, but I
> >> wondered if Nautilus could save me some effort, and I'm planning to test
> >> Pharo 1.4 or 2.0 in some future in which AFAIK OmniBrowser will not be
> >> supported anymore.
> >>
> >> - Some time ago I've modified the OmniBrowser framework to browse anything
> >> I wanted in the "code pane" (the lower pane typically used for
> >> displaying/editing code), as we had a complex OODB it was very useful, see
> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxUaOFRHFPk for a demo. However it was not
> >> easy to understand the OB internals and make the modifications. Have you
> >> tried to implement such feature in Nautilus?
> >> - There is documentation for developing browsers with Nautilus? Something
> >> which explains the basic architecture, how it differs from OB? for example:
> >> --Do you have to define a metagraph?
> >> --May I have multiple definition panels?
> >> -Do you have a mapping for each node type (class?) with each column?
> >> -OB is not cross-UI (it depends on Morphic). Can I use a Nautilus browser
> >> within a web browser?
> >> - Another thing which is really easy is to define Commands in OB,
> >> (although the #isActive logic could become a mess without some care). How
> >> it is different in Nautilus?
> >>
> >> I'm sure I would rewrite my browsers with Nautilus, my key question is how
> >> much of the OB knowledge I can re-use?
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >>
> >> Hernán
> >>
> >> --
> >> Hernán Morales
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> >>
> >
> >
>
>
>
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