And all that under the assumption that people know what they want ... which is not true , even for me that I tend to be quite clear on the things I want and believe in. Plus , who does not love pleasant surprises ? I love when people really innovate and try new fresh approaches to old problems.
Also about the poll, I did it, but it was too short to be meaningful , well at least to me. By the way Clojure has an extremely interesting survey/poll for each year maybe we can do something similar for pharo and squeak ---> http://cemerick.com/2012/08/06/results-of-the-2012-state-of-clojure-survey/ ________________________________ From: Igor Stasenko <[email protected]> To: A friendly place where any question about pharo is welcome <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, 22 August 2012, 13:59 Subject: Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo usage poll On 22 August 2012 06:05, Hernán Morales Durand <[email protected]> wrote: > > 2012/8/22 Igor Stasenko <[email protected]> >> >> or look at this form another perspective: >> if you know how to make things better, improve them, what you waiting >> for and not doing it in a first place? > > > I'm doing it, saying that a brief poll could be better is pushing Pharo > developers to make things better. Don't you think so? > The main problem with this is that often questions and received answers will remain to be just a questions and received answers: the results are never implemented/reflected into something material. So, as to me it is more useful to do something real instead of asking around "what something real we should do?" and then unable to do it. Everyone wants X, but nobody doing it. Do you know how many of those X's i heard over past few years? More than you can do even if you spend all of your life doing them. >> >> Pharo is open project after all. >> Or at least, if you having a great idea but have no time/resources to >> do it, why you don't proposing it or asking around who interested in >> implementing it, but sitting there waiting to be asked .. >> > > Yes, I'd like to be asked for the right questions. Your questions tell me > your interests much as your lack of questions. I'm proposing more accurate > polls... like "which packages do you use often?", "which non-core Collection > classes do you need more?", "do you use Traits?", etc. > Nobody is obliged to answer any poll, if too many questions, you just don't > answer :) > Once again, i don't think that showing interest in something in form of pool is the best way to communicate.. And polls is one way communication.. and pretty obscure one. For example, if you ask in poll "do you use Traits" most of people may answer "no", so that may drive your decision to remove them.. until you discover that most of people actually meant to say is: "i don't use traits in my current project, but they should stay because they can be useful and i can see their potential" > Hernán -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko.
