2012/8/22 Igor Stasenko <[email protected]> > On 22 August 2012 06:05, Hernán Morales Durand <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > 2012/8/22 Igor Stasenko <[email protected]> > >> > >> or look at this form another perspective: > >> if you know how to make things better, improve them, what you waiting > >> for and not doing it in a first place? > > > > > > I'm doing it, saying that a brief poll could be better is pushing Pharo > > developers to make things better. Don't you think so? > > > > The main problem with this is that often questions and received answers > will remain to be just a questions and received answers: the results > are never implemented/reflected into something material. > So, as to me it is more useful to do something real instead of asking > around "what something real we should do?" and then unable to do it. > > Everyone wants X, but nobody doing it. Do you know how many of those > X's i heard over past few years? More than you can do even if you > spend all of your life doing them. > > I see, but I'm not talking about what people wants. Just saying that more good feedback would be useful to Pharo developers for future releases. It doesn't mean asking for feature X.
> >> > >> Pharo is open project after all. > >> Or at least, if you having a great idea but have no time/resources to > >> do it, why you don't proposing it or asking around who interested in > >> implementing it, but sitting there waiting to be asked .. > >> > > > > Yes, I'd like to be asked for the right questions. Your questions tell me > > your interests much as your lack of questions. I'm proposing more > accurate > > polls... like "which packages do you use often?", "which non-core > Collection > > classes do you need more?", "do you use Traits?", etc. > > Nobody is obliged to answer any poll, if too many questions, you just > don't > > answer :) > > > Once again, i don't think that showing interest in something in form > of pool is the best way to > communicate.. > And polls is one way communication.. and pretty obscure one. > I disagree with your obscurity claim. There have been even democratic elections through internet based polls. There are hundreds of case studies based on polls/surveys in the software engineering knowledge management field. There are peer-reviewed scientific papers discussing e-voting infrastructure systems. It's ok if you don't want to use the available technology for polls, but believing it's an obscure communication is not valid anymore. > For example, if you ask in poll "do you use Traits" most of people may > answer "no", so that may drive your decision to remove them.. > until you discover that most of people actually meant to say is: "i > don't use traits in my current project, but they should stay because > they can be useful and i can see their potential" > > You are worried about falsifications, but you may ask cleverly. For example, you could ask "do you see potential use of Traits for your future projects?" and "do you have verifiable experience with Traits?". It takes some time, but you may discover much more than sitting there without questioning yourself anything. > > Hernán > > -- > Best regards, > Igor Stasenko. > >
