Mariano's PhD was on this - as mentioned it to me a few weeks ago. This was one 
of the reasons for building fuel - to enable this sort of thing on top - and he 
proved it worked.

Dimitrus - the idea is to I have a small core that loads quick and then less 
used elements can be paged in when needed (but maybe that's what you're saying 
too).

I disagree that Pharo desperately needs image assembly tools. It's quite 
specialised - and we have some core tools to work with,  and minimal images to 
start from. 

While I'd love more - finishing off what we already have in play (e.g. Got, 
bloc, Calypso ...) would seem more urgent.

Tim

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> On 25 Aug 2017, at 08:47, Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.al...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I still dont know what opening has to do with transmitting, even when you do 
> it remotely , a socket / websocket connection should be all you need. For me 
> transmitting the entire image would be necessary only in the case you want to 
> install it remotely and that remote location has no immediate access to the 
> installation. 
> 
>> On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 7:14 AM Ben Coman <b...@openinworld.com> wrote:
>> I understand that to mean effectively that you are "opening" the image 
>> across the net - so eventually you need to whole image transmitted, but you 
>> don't have to wait for the whole thing before you start running it.
>> cheers -ben
>> 
>> 
>>> On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 2:00 AM, Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.al...@gmail.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> Indeed that can be a barrier  but why you would want to transmit an entire 
>>> image instead of portion of it using something like fuel files or other 
>>> binary formats ? It would dramatically reduce the size of data you 
>>> transmit. 
>>> 
>>>> On Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 8:10 PM Craig Latta <cr...@blackpagedigital.com> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> > ...10mbs which is the size pharo image can be reduced to is nothing
>>>> > for todays TBs hard drives and GBs flash drives and online storage.
>>>> > Unless you do an embedded app and 10 mbs are huge for your limited
>>>> > storage.
>>>> 
>>>>      Or you want to minimize initial startup time, including the time it
>>>> takes to transmit the entire system over the net.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -C
>>>> 
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>> 

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