Sean, the question is of course - is it the HTML only model you are interested in or is it rather a 'web document model' (i.e. something which is displayed in a browser) thus including HTML and CSS.
--HH. On 9/9/17, H. Hirzel <hannes.hir...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 9/9/17, Sean P. DeNigris <s...@clipperadams.com> wrote: >> I'd like to create HTML via a DSL, like Seaside's canvas builder, but >> without >> loading a whole web framework. Any ideas? >> > > Hello Sean > > > 1. > One idea is _not_ to go for a HTML builder DSL but for a document > model plus a generator. > The generator is a visitor for the document object model. > > There is the Pillar document model and a visitor already in place. > > The current challenge - actually it is not a challenge - but just > needs some time - is to extract the Pillar document model (easy) and > the tests (needs more time) so that it can be loaded as a stand-alone > package. > > See a long discussion in a thread in August about including Pillar in the > image. > > The same then applies for the HTML generator. That is just a file-out > from an image which has the full Pillar loaded. > > So IMHO it is not so much about inventing a new HTML builder DSL but > to "mold" exisiting infrastructure into shape. > > This has the advantage that you can generate other representations easily. > > > 2. > Another idea is to look at HttpView2 done 10 years ago and come up > with a revised version. > http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/182 > > "No Files. No HTML. Just Smalltalk code!" > > A builder: http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/637 > The element hierarchy: http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/840 > > > Discussion > --------------- > > Comparison of 1 and 2 > > In 1 you use a document model (DOM) which is independent from the > representation in HTML code. > > Than you have a generator generating the HTML code. The DOM is > actually quite close to the HTML DOM. > > The Pillar DOM is nicely supported in Pharo with the inspector. > > Neither 1 nor 2 actually take CSS into account. An issue which is > important when you generate web pages. > > So from the Smalltalk data model point of view (web document modeling) > you have a Smalltalk object which is then rendered on two output > streams > > - HTML > - CSS > > Things get interesting in particular if you want to generate > responsive web sites. > The you need to do more on the CSS side and with generating pictures as > well. > > Regards > Hannes > >> >> ----- >> Cheers, >> Sean >> -- >> Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html >> >> >
