Hilaire Bloc, Brick are not in Pharo yet. So either you want to build on top of Bloc and you use Bloc or not. Easy. Right now in Pharo we have - plain Morphic (with Polymorph but this is the same) - Spec to build user interface independent of the underlying layer (Morphic for now) - Glamour to build browser/navigation
Now if you need vector graphics: you use Athens in Pharo. In the future we will have Sparta which is better adapted for Bloc (local coordinates over global coordinates) but this is the same kind of API. So this is not complex. The decision tree is Using plain Pharo or not => Morphic or Bloc Stef On Sat, Nov 11, 2017 at 9:29 PM, Hilaire <hila...@drgeo.eu> wrote: > P6 is definitely a better IDE compare to previous version, and for coming > Calypso looks fantastic, but P6 is a worst vehicle for a desktop > application. There is much more code included and you are on your on to > shrink/clean it to deploy your desktop application to make it looks and > behave user friendly. May be for a specialized audience it could be just > fine to deploy as is. > > About my perception on Pharo, from a distant POV, I see > parallel/overlapping/contiguous layers like Morphic, Athens, Sparta, Bloc, > Brick, Spec, GT, Polymorph all this looks confusing for me and I really > don't know or understand where to put my eggs. > > When I took a look at Pharo keyboard shortcut, it seems to be -- without > been sure 100% -- there are two different implementations. One from GT and > another one, probably a legacy one. How can it happen? Then you wonder about > other part of the system. It makes fells like changes/implementations are > not coherent, and you don't really fell the environment as coherent or > trustful. > > May be the twist is ontological, Pharo (and Squeak) taking too much > responsibilities and not delegating enough to the host environment: GUI, > Freetype, Canvas. The energy required is then out of reach or the needed > coherence in teams works too complex. Don't know, just blind guesses, I will > now shut up. > > > Le 10/11/2017 à 12:23, Cédrick Béler a écrit : >> >> But I have the opposite impression (of course I don’t have to maintain a >> big project like yours - I wouldn’t say you’re the hobby user:) ). But I >> really find P6 more consistent than what I used to try in the past (last >> squeaks up to 3.9 and firsts pharo). > > > -- > Dr. Geo > http://drgeo.eu > > >
