Indeed, Lorenzo Schiavina has expressed interest in modelling a similar competition in Italy with my competition material! This was the vision I had three years ago.
Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas-2 wrote > Yes, as I told that would be a big deviation from the vision, but also a > way to bridge it with the community. Anyway making a pretty localized > competition in a Smalltalk variant for a particular population of a > specific country is also a way to promote Smalltalk and after done it > will bring lessons on efforts to results ratio and community involvement. > > Cheers, > > Offray > > On 24/11/18 7:53, horrido wrote: >> All of these are good ideas. But they deviate from my vision. At any >> rate, my >> competition idea was a big hit in Salta, and I am committed to moving >> forward with it. >> >> Since nobody has stepped up to the plate, David Buck will try to find >> time >> to code the competition. However, progress will be slow because of his >> busy >> schedule. >> >> And since David is not familiar with Pharo, we'll have to do the >> competition >> in VisualWorks, after all. Perhaps in the next edition of the James >> Robertson Memorial Programming Competition (hopefully in 2021 for the >> United >> States), someone will port the VisualWorks code over to Pharo (hint, >> hint). >> >> Ah, the vicissitudes of being a competition organizer... >> >> >> >> Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas-2 wrote >>> Hi, >>> >>> Thanks for your positive and critical comments, as usual Ben. >>> >>> Richard I think that is important to listen to a community when reaching >>> to it (I remember a talk we had where I suggested an approach closer to >>> anthropology instead of marketing). Many of us value your contributions, >>> despite of approaching them in a critical way. For example, I think that >>> promotion is important, but popularity is not, and the later is not a >>> proper measure of the effectivity of the former. As a Latin American >>> (that means people born and rise Latino America, not Latinos living in >>> United States) for me is really alien the North American people (that >>> means people living in the North region of the American continent that >>> goes from Alaska to Patagonia and beyond) is kind of obsessed with >>> popularity, competition, winning and losing, at least for what popular >>> media depicts (even seems that loser is kind of a big insult over >>> there). I don't think that winning a competition is the best way of >>> making a younger become part of collaborative open community. Also, in >>> an interconnected world, I feel more inclined to volunteer my time >>> helping a young person from the Global South to become part of the >>> Pharo/Smalltalk community that to volunteer my time for a pretty >>> localized competence in a particular place of the Global North. >>> >>> That being said, I think that little money can help a lot (specially in >>> the Global South) and I like the idea of making young people interested >>> in the offerings that Smalltalk has. The average FLOSS project has a >>> media of one developer [1], so even winning one more after the >>> competition is a big win. But I would try to volunteer my time in >>> something that brings the gap between Pharo communities and young people >>> and between the Global North and the Global South, specifically in my >>> Pharo powered project, Grafoscopio. >>> >>> [1] https://mako.cc/writing/hill-when_free_software_isnt_better.html >>> >>> So I'm glad that you are open to suggestions. Here come mine about how >>> this could be done, but this may also become something totally different >>> of your actual proposal, but, hopefully, also more global, interesting, >>> long lasting and a middle point between your promotional efforts and the >>> activities of this community. >>> >>> # The Smalltalk Global Campfire >>> >>> Is an immersive inclusive global experience where new people (regardless >>> of age, ethnicity or gender) can participate in a Smalltalk powered >>> project and get mentorship from community members and start a long >>> lasting relationship with a powerful technology, Smalltalk, and the >>> friendly communities around it. >>> >>> ## How it will work >>> >>> Seasoned global Smalltalkers will propose a "tent", which is a set of >>> related campfire projects (one or many) directed towards newbies, >>> related with programming and coding, but also connected them with other >>> activities which recognize that people comes from different backgrounds, >>> have different interests and that an inclusive tech community is more >>> than code[2]. The projects will allow newbies to learn coding, but also >>> to express and connect it with wider concerns (documentation, civic >>> tech, entrepreneurship, gaming, learning, etc). >>> >>> [2] https://morethancode.cc/about/ >>> >>> Interested campers will find the different tents where they can join and >>> the tent leader will prepare a set of (increasingly complex?) activities >>> for the members of the tent. Campers will work in the activities on a >>> weekly basis and setup and open source code repository for working >>> together. >>> >>> Coordination language for the Global Campfire will be English for tent >>> leaders, but campers can use native language for communication between >>> them and for some activities (local documentation, translations) as we >>> don't want to impose a unique language to become part of a community and >>> we recognize active Smalltalkers from around the world that can help >>> local communities, made them stronger and better connected. >>> >>> ## Tent medals >>> >>> Becoming part of a open collaborative community is mostly about being >>> able to help each other and how you and the community create value for >>> each other. So while this is not a competition, we recognize that small >>> money can be an important incentive to keep communities dynamic. >>> >>> At the end of the Campfire the community will provide with Member Badges >>> and Tent Medals which recognize the work done by all the participants >>> and also will give a small money incentive for the tent that made the >>> best work, so the tent can decide how to spend it better. The evaluation >>> will be done for each Tent leader, and also two external judges. >>> >>> The Tent Medals will be: >>> >>> * 1 Gold Medal: XXX Dollars. >>> * 1 Silver Medal: XYZ Dollars. >>> * 1 Bronze Medal: ABC Dollars. >>> >>> ## Closing >>> >>> I really don't know about the details here: How do we assign the prices? >>> There is any better place that the one referred at [2] to showcase the >>> important of going beyond code in tech communities? What is the proper >>> duration for the Campfire? This is just a draft, but I think that this >>> is something I would like to volunteer for and serves better the need >>> for new people in our community, and can be also addressed from our >>> local context and particular projects while connecting more the global >>> community. >>> >>> On 21/11/18 10:23, Ben Coman via Pharo-users wrote: >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html >> >> -- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html
