Vince,

I guess this has its roots in long-ongoing discussions about the anticipated disadvantages of image-based development in general. It tries to explain that Smalltalk has mechanisms for recovering code after an image crashes. It is not indicating that images do actually crash more often than other development environments. It is more a remark about the fact that of course even Smalltalk can crash and that there is a mechanism (namely the changes file and changes browsers) for restoring your code after a crash, even if you didn't file-out your code or didn't push it to an external repository. Nothing more, nothing less.

So please don't read this as: "Since Pharo/Smalltalk isn't stable, we had to xyz" - this is not the case. I've been using Smalltalk (mostly not Pharo) for more than 25 years and I can only remember having a need to recover source code maybe a hand full of times. In my favorite Smalltalk (VA Smalltalk), I am almost 100% sure I never had this issue because Envy is exactly the measure that is mentioned in the sentence you cited.

Joachim

Am 11.10.19 um 07:39 schrieb Vince Refiti:
Hi

This brings up some questions I have been meaning to ask for some time. The sentence 
"When the Pharo image crashes (which will happen), there must be a way to 
automatically recover from this crash." appears in the Enterprise Pharo Book.

Does this claim still apply? Is Pharo that unstable still?

If it is, what are the major causes in your own applications that crash it? I 
have run a few small, local, experimental Teapot, Seaside and other Pharo 
server apps and nothing crashed, but reading something like that makes me 
nervous about public-facing server apps in Pharo.

Vince

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On Thu, Oct 10, 2019 at 04:18:14PM -0400, sergio ruiz wrote:
How are people keeping it running these days?
I used to use daemontools. These days I use Docker.

Pierce


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