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It is interesting to see that Siren uses PortAudio. I was considering to
recommend adopting it for Pharo in the other sound thread.
It has been used in a lot of projects, but I am a little concerned it has not
been recently updated.
http://www.portaudio.com
> On May 14, 2020, at 1:15 PM, Stéphane Ducasse <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> Thanks Steven this is cool to see that Siren is living and kicking.
> Last year I was browsing the old site and I was sad because I thought it was
> dead.
> Your OSC looks better than the one in Pharo even if we used it successfully
> to connect interactive tables with a HCI research group.
>
> If you need help to migrate from VW let us know because it would be great to
> have Siren working in Pharo.
> I did not see any Unit tests and the tests saved us when we migrated Moose.
> Sometimes we even only kept them because they were
> better than the implementation. It took us around six months and we got free
> :)
> And we have some contacts that would be interested in London. We could put
> you in contact.
>
> Now just some questions and you may know the answer so I ask
>
> I was thinking but I may be totally wrong that it was forbidden to give
> VW images and that the current license
> was for personal use only. Long time ago the shrink process was
> removing the compiler. Now I saw that your image is 42mb.
>
> Personally I do not want to download any VisualWorks distribution and
> sign their licenses because I want to stay cristal clear
> on ANY license and possible issues. I did not look at Visualworks since
> 2008 and I feel clean and I will stay like that.
>
> So I imagine that I’m not allowed to use your software. I’m not good in
> music sadly so there is no frustration from my side.
>
> You mention that people can use a non-commercial version of VW but this
> license does not exist anymore.
>
> Is there a 64 bits version of VW because VW7.5 starts to show its age
> and on recent mac you only have 64 bits.
>
>
> Some people may think that we are just over the top on open-source but this
> is not by accident that we took the responsibility to create Pharo.
> We could not distribute Moose our open-source platform so after 10 years of
> hard work we had to do something. And we created Pharo.
> And the problem we got were with the previous version (the non commercial) of
> the Cincom license and the new one is even more restrictive.
> Some friends of mine told me that some lawyers were starting to get picky and
> send letters around.
> So watch out.
>
> BTW I did not see the license of Siren on the git repo. If I may suggest one,
> BSD/MIT are nice, avoid GPL because it means that nobody serious on Smalltalk
> will ever look at your system and contribute.
>
> S.
>
>> On 14 May 2020, at 01:40, [email protected]
>> <mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> The Siren system is a general-purpose framework for music and sound
>> composition, processing, performance, and analysis; it is a collection of
>> about 350 classes written in Smalltalk-80 (40 kLOC or so). Siren 9.0 works
>> on VisualWorks Smalltalk (though the bulk has been ported to other dialects
>> as well); Siren supports streaming I/O via OpenSoundControl (OSC), MIDI, and
>> multi-channel audio ports. The Siren release is available via the web from
>> the URL http://FASTLabInc.com/Siren <http://fastlabinc.com/Siren>.
>>
>> Siren is a programming framework and tool kit; the intended audience is
>> Smalltalk developers, or users willing to learn Smalltalk in order to write
>> their own applications. The built-in applications are meant as
>> demonstrations of the use of the libraries, rather than as end-user
>> applications. Siren is not a MIDI sequencer, nor a score notation editor,
>> through both of these applications would be easy to implement with the Siren
>> framework.
>>
>> There are several elements to Siren:
>>
>> * the Smoke music representation language (music magnitudes, events, event
>> lists, generators, functions, and sounds);
>>
>> * voices, schedulers and I/O drivers (real-time and file-based voices,
>> sound, score file, OSC, and MIDI I/O);
>>
>> * user interface components for musical applications (UI framework, tools,
>> and widgets);
>>
>> * several built-in applications (editors and browsers for Smoke objects);
>> and
>>
>> * external library interfaces for streaming I/O and DSP math (sound/MIDI
>> I/O, fast FFT, CSL & Loris sound analysis/resynthesis packages )
>>
>> The best in-depth doc (book chapter) is in,
>> http://FASTLabInc.com/Siren/Doc/SirenBookChapter.pdf
>> <http://fastlabinc.com/Siren/Doc/SirenBookChapter.pdf>
>>
>> The read the demo code workbook (this text), go to,
>> http://FASTLabInc.com/Siren/Siren7.5.Workbook.html
>> <http://fastlabinc.com/Siren/Siren7.5.Workbook.html>
>> or
>> http://FASTLabInc.com/Siren/Siren7.5.Workbook.pdf
>> <http://fastlabinc.com/Siren/Siren7.5.Workbook.pdf>
>>
>> If you like to read manuals, take a look at,
>> http://FASTLabInc.com/Siren/Manual <http://fastlabinc.com/Siren/Manual>
>>
>> or watch the detailed Siren demo at,
>> https://vimeo.com/120751122 <https://vimeo.com/120751122>
>>
>> The links to get Siren9 are,
>>
>> Web site: http://fastlabinc.com/Siren <http://fastlabinc.com/Siren>
>>
>> Package download: http://fastlabinc.com/Siren/Siren_9.0.zip
>> <http://fastlabinc.com/Siren/Siren_9.0.zip>
>>
>> Github repo: https://github.com/stpope/Siren9
>> <https://github.com/stpope/Siren9>
>>
>>
>> Comments solicited.
>>
>> Stephen Pope
>>
>>
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