> On 2 Aug 2020, at 15:33, Russ Whaley <whaley.r...@gmail.com> wrote: > > EXACTLY!, Stéphane, thank you! I will go through this tutorial today. > > Has anyone written any documentation or maybe a tool that would help > understand what each ‘widget’ is capable of? I review all example code, read > all class comments and peruse the class hierarchy, but when a widget > capability doesn’t work for me, I don’t know whether I’m using it > incorrectly, in the wrong place, or if it’s a bug.. I.e filter/sort, > TransmitTo:, drag and drop, double-click, right-click, presenter management > (modal, etc), and how to force the display to refresh, etc. Your thoughts?
Same feeling for me. This is why I would like - to have the time to propose a way to mark API elements so that we can build a little tools to show the API of each widget We did this in Spec1 and it supported the auto documentation of the system. - to have better method comments, and class comments. - that esteban write more doc. I decided that I will not write anything before (because I’m TIRED to learn by try and error to be able to write documentation). I will never do that again. It is not fun and I prefer to focus on my stupid projects because I know them. So if you want to help me. Ask for them :) > I appreciate (and admire) all the work you and everyone put into the > documentation and tutorials - and I am voracious in consuming them. Thanks! > I hope to build my skills to be able to contribute for the community. If you find typos or strange english let us know. Because this is already a contribution > > Thanks! > Russ > > On Sun, Aug 2, 2020 at 5:07 AM Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.duca...@inria.fr > <mailto:stephane.duca...@inria.fr>> wrote: > > >> On 29 Jul 2020, at 05:06, Russ Whaley <whaley.r...@gmail.com >> <mailto:whaley.r...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> Back on the 'Intermediate Tutorials' question... >> >> I would love to see intermediate tutorials on Spec2 and Seaside.... and >> perhaps how to best adapt an (Sp)Application to serve both 'presenters' with >> guidelines on what responsibility goes where on the presenter/component, >> application, and model(s). > > Agreed. > Now for the seaside tutorials please ask seasiders because what is killing me > is to have to deeply learning something before writing > may be one person can write some blog posts. > > For Spec2 we will but I’m waiting for esteban to write and I do a pass after. > >> What I found most useful in tutorials is specific examples. To me, generic >> examples can be too easily misunderstood - making them difficult to >> (re)apply. A specific example, even if silly, can really make a difference… > > Yes! > Did you see > > https://github.com/Ducasse/smalltodo-example/blob/master/SmallTODO-Tutorial-1.md > > <https://github.com/Ducasse/smalltodo-example/blob/master/SmallTODO-Tutorial-1.md> > > >> i.e. I'm never going to create a GUI based on the Class/method hierarchy and >> I find it very difficult to apply those examples (although they are slick) >> to my application needs. >> >> I love looking at how other people approach problems, identify solutions (I >> can't wait to dig into the logic-puzzle code). This mailing list is great, >> but more - and more advanced - tutorials would be very much appreciated! >> >> Thanks! >> Russ >> >> >> On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 11:45 PM tbrunz <wild.id...@gmail.com >> <mailto:wild.id...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> So I decided to write an application to solve the Zebra Puzzle, by solving >> this type of problem in general. In Pharo, of course. >> >> I worked out a few basic algorithms for making deductions and inferences, >> and coded them, along with tests, in Pharo 8. Now I've reached the point of >> having a working "proof of concept" or prototype. It can't (yet) solve the >> Zebra Puzzle without some "human assistance", but it does keep track of the >> solution state as it progresses, it handles the bookkeeping, makes the basic >> deductions/inferences, and produces reports. >> >> And I've used it to quickly solve the Zebra Puzzle. I coded the solution as >> a separate class/method, with extra rules inserted that I was able to infer >> by iterating to partial solutions, so that it solves the entire thing. It >> will interesting to develop the remaining algorithms, and it would be nice >> to eventually create a nice, interactive user interface for it as well. >> >> Since I want to fashion this into an intermediate-level tutorial, I need >> feedback on what I have so far. I don't want my inexperience to lead to me >> teaching the wrong techniques, etc. to other developers who are learning >> Pharo. What I have can no doubt be improved, but I need to hear from the >> master craftsman in this community what parts are compromised and how (and >> why) it can be made a better example of "how to program in Pharo" properly. >> >> If anyone has the time and is willing to help, the code (complete with class >> & method comments, test classes/methods, and the Zebra Puzzle example) is >> here: >> https://github.com/tbrunz/logic-puzzle >> <https://github.com/tbrunz/logic-puzzle> and I'm available to answer >> questions >> about it, of course. >> >> >> >> -- >> Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html >> <http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html> >> >> >> >> -- >> Russ Whaley >> whaley.r...@gmail.com <mailto:whaley.r...@gmail.com> > -------------------------------------------- > Stéphane Ducasse > http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr <http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr/> / > http://www.pharo.org <http://www.pharo.org/> > 03 59 35 87 52 > Assistant: Aurore Dalle > FAX 03 59 57 78 50 > TEL 03 59 35 86 16 > S. 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