Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2003 23:44:25 -0800
From: J Sloan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: NVIDIA patches to run it on phoebe/rawhide kernels
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Jarod Wilson wrote:

I had a very elegant solution to this whole nVidia kernel driver issue.
I bought a Radeon 9000 Pro. :)

Let us know how it works - is 3D supported?

Yes, 3D is supported by the native XFree86 drivers.

I'd love to know of alternatives to nvidia for
the linux gaming experience, simply for the
reason that 3rd party binary drivers are sort
of awkward when the kernel is upgraded -

First go 'round with UT2003 was an abysmal failure. My system is currently locked up, with some horrendous attempt at rendering a scene stuck on screen. Only the second time I've seen a Linux system hard-lock (can't get to a vty, can't ssh in, nada).

Granted, this game is a hackish port of a Direct3D Windows game, but this is really quite a terrible result. However, I'm about to give it another go with ATI's drivers, to see if they fare any better...

I don't do any gaming on this machine (I do that on
another machine running XP).

No use for xp here - oh well, to each his own...

Gaming is about the only thing my Windows XP box gets used for anymore. Quite a waste of an Athlon 2200, 1GB of DDR-333 and a GF4Ti4600 most of the time... (My Linux box is a dual Athlon MP 2000, 1GB DDR-266 ECC and this Radeon 9000 Pro/128MB).

If this is any indication, I'll be sticking XP for gaming for some time.

Rather than spend countless hours trying to
hack nVidia's drivers to work with each new kernel,

If you're not gaming, why not just use the 2D
nv drivers? gaming is the only reason I can
think of for futzing with the nvidia drivers...

There are things other than games that use 3D! And nVidia's drivers have better 2D also.


Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 07:54:41 -0500 (EST)
From: "Daniel T. Drea" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: NVIDIA patches to run it on phoebe/rawhide kernels
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On Mon, 9 Mar 2003, Jarod Wilson wrote:

I had a very elegant solution to this whole nVidia kernel driver issue.
I bought a Radeon 9000 Pro. :)

Admittedly, I think it is the first ATI card I've purchased since I
bought an 8MB Rage Pro in '97, juxtaposed to the 10 or so nVidia cards
I've bought since then, but hey... To me, it was worth the cost,
especially since I don't do any gaming on this machine (I do that on
another machine running XP). Rather than spend countless hours trying to
hack nVidia's drivers to work with each new kernel, I've got all that
spare time for other endeavors. Like compiling ALSA drivers (takes a
while, even on my dual Athlon MP 2000)...

Though for some, the extra expense of a new video card isn't the best
use of funds, and/or the hacking might be welcome. A bit of hacking is
fun, but I'd rather be working on something that's paying the bills...
To each his (or her) own.


But now that you mention it, how IS the 3d performance of that card using
dri in linux? I'm close to purchasing a new card myself, and since the 900
get's Mike Harris seal of approval I'd consider this one if the
performance is acceptable. :) thanks

Like I just said above, so far, so bad. Just gave up and hard-reset my Linux box. Never done that before... But shortly, I'll be trying with ATI's drivers.

If people are curious, I can also try out Return to Castle Wolfenstein. I have a feeling the card might fare better with a pure OpenGL game.

For reference, I also tried UT2003 on my Athlon 2200 w/GF4Ti4600. Exact same settings as under Windows, where they play buttery smooth, were less than stellar under Linux. But I'm a performance freak, so ymmv...

One more try with the stock XF86 Radeon drivers before I call it a night... And it locked up again. (I'm on my Power Mac typing this right now, not the XP machine :).

More to come tomorrow evening.
--
Jarod Wilson, RHCE
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"A wise man once said nothing at all."

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