The website says that RHELWS doesn't include some "server" type services like dhcp, dns, etc.
But what about other services like mysql, apache, samba? I'm interested in RHEL to use for a bugzilla server (apache, msyql) and also as a private SMB server (smbd). Are these services available on the WS edition? I don't have the budget for ES or AS. On Thu, 2003-03-27 at 18:15, Jef Spaleta wrote: > On Thu, 2003-03-27 at 19:20, Michael Schwendt wrote: > > > Actually, public feedback on what users and potential customers > > think about the comprehensibility and clearness of Red Hat's product > > information pages, and what they think about the pricing itself, is > > far more interesting and relevant than any attempts on cutting down > > the remaining traffic on this (probably already dying) list. > > I didn't say it wasn't interesting subject matter. I'm saying this whole > line of debate is getting rather repetitive, and dull. And I am > suggesting that anyone who really cares will use a phone and talk to a > sales drone as instructed on the webpages...yeesh. I certainly don't > care enough to shuffle my fat arse over to the phone all the way on the > other side of the room. But I'm not going to DEMAND Red Hat to address > these issue of a beta mailing list. I expect Red Hat sales department to > address these issue through their chosen method of communication...the > phone...a perfectly viable tool for user feedback...even in the digital > age. > Its a perfectly delicious subject to debate...except for the fact that > no one doing the debating has any "facts"...and no one doing the > debating seems inclined to go research the facts via phone, as > instructed on the webpages, if the information on the webpages is too > difficult to digest...which it seems to be for a lot of us here. > > > I think > > the sales department would revise the web pages if they got many > > repetitive questions by phone. > > Thats a good reason for everyone who CARES, to call. I have a very > strong gut feeling most of the people posting at this point don't really > care and are just getting their daily exercise by typing out a > post...like me....i'm going to burn something like 200 calories by the > time i finish this rant. > > > But consider all those visitors who > > don't call them and who misunderstand the pricing model. Imagine > > someone got a false picture and ordered and later learned that the > > renewal of the annual subscription is much more expensive. > > They should really call and talk to a sales rep before the buy the > product. Looking over a mailinglist about it isn't going to clear it up. > But in case anyone is lurking, I'll give them some free advice. > Expecting real information to turn up here that will affect their > purchasing decisions is folly, and the should pick up the phone and call > red hat's sales number as listed in the Enterprise productline webpages, > to make sure they really understand what is going on. The phone number > is there for a reason. Anyone who thinks this beta list is a good place > to get concrete information needs to have their head examined. > > > Surely > > something you would to avoid, even if it were only once. It doesn't > > really matter on what mailing-list this comes up. As you know, > > people from Red Hat read these lists, too. > > And very very few of them post, and at no point did anyone ever suggest > that this was a place were any problems with redhat would be addressed > officially....and this line of debate is getting rather stale. Let me > sum up. People are confused....and are EXPECTING Red Hat to fully > address this confusion on this beta list. Silly people. Maybe a Red Hat > sales demigod will make an extensive explanation with words limited to a > maximum of 2 syllables, on the mailing list...here is where that "hold > yer breath" idea comes into play again. > > Since this is the beta list..how about this...how about someone file a > bugtix in bugzilla for rhn or the redhat website and actually get > their gripes about how confusing things are down in bugzilla, so the rhn > developers or the website maintainers can be sure to catch it. When did > anyone ever suggest that making reference to any > problem..cough..bug...on this list would make the right person aware of > the bug. As of now confusion over the pricing structure seems to have > been confirmed on the list...thats about as much as you can expect to > get in this list. Now, you can either call Red Hat's sales phone number > and get more info...or you can file a bug with bugzilla asking Red Hat > to make the info in rhn or the website clearer as to what you get for > yer money. But, anymore back and forth on this between people who are > guessing at what the options are is just a waste of bandwidth...or you > can hold yer breath and wait for a Red Hat sales rep to make a long > detailed explanation to the list...and watch them do just that to spite > me. > > -jef"1-888-REDHAT-1"spaleta -- Phoebe-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/phoebe-list
