In a message dated 11/5/03 8:41:08 AM Pacific Standard Time, [email protected] writes:
> The purchase of 'luxury' items stimulates the economy and provides jobs. Of course I cannot argue with Dan or Steve about this, though I could point out that helping a kid pay college tuition also stimulates the economy and provides jobs. Good ones, too! Our free market system is complex and money such a relative thing. Likewise, inspiring stories of the tribulations of our immigrant grandparents and the conditions of the third world today can go a long way to justify the status quo. I must differ on two counts, however, and if I do, surely 9,999,0000 other people will also, at least on some level. Not all of us do not appreciate free things, or hand outs. I think only spoiled people do that. I think it is overly mythologized that free things are not appreciated. The beautiful sunset was free. Did you fail to appreciate that? If you did does that make it wrong? Should God take it away? Some of my most treasured items were "handouts" or gifts of love. Some have some monetary value and other things do not, but I have had them for the better part of my lifetime now and would save them first from the lava flow. Likewise, I know from personal experience no immigrant grandfather on this earth did it all by himself. Somebody had to help somewhere along the way. Maybe he had to prove his worthiness, but somebody (and likely many more than one) at a critical time or times influenced his life in a positive way - a little mercy here, a crust of bread there, a good book, a train ticket, a twenty dollar bill, a decent job... Look at yourself. Did you make your fortune, whatever it is without any help? I don't think I would believe anyone who said otherwise, unless they won a lottery, found gold bars while hiking, stole it or inherited it. (And, there's plenty of that going on here, too - after all, this is the USA, ya?). My issue is with blatant excess in the face of want. I would be inclined (with difficulty) to not outlaw $30,000 record sales if I were king of the earth, for reasons such as those outlined by Steve and Dan, but personally, I would have to draw a line and remember my obligation to the larger community before I'd let ego rule the checkbook. The system isn't perfect and its existence should not be a crutch to justify blatant iniquity. I'll stop here. I realize this is a minority point of view and many will brush it off as unworthy. I'll go play some cheap 78s now. Some of them came out of a box that was given to me. ; ) Edward From Keith.Carter Thu Nov 6 06:53:33 2003 From: Keith.Carter (Carter, Keith) Date: Sun Dec 24 13:10:25 2006 Subject: [Phono-L] Baby Phonograph Message-ID: <13b49bbf822443...@department_of_energy_e-mail_security_server> Hello Joan, I looked again at my Issue #6 and it is on page 33 bottom right corner a picture. The V78J Late Summer 1995 Light Blue Cover " The 70th Anniversary of the Orthophonic" Issue. I also remember that the front bottom half of the baby phono looked like it was made out of tin because it was not fully attached to the phono. I was just wondering what thoes baby phono really run in price. I just thought that the price tag of over $600.00 was REAL STEEP! -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 5:39 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Baby Phonograph Keith writes, > I was traveling around the area looking in antique shops and ran across a > very small crank phonograph maybe 18 inches with about 10 little wonder > records. > I was wondering what these machines go for. They were selling it for over > $600.00 which I thought was WAY too high. It was'nt in tip top shape either. > If anyone has the "Victrola and 78 Journal" Issue #6, it's looks like the > one on page 33 bottom right corner of the page. > keith Hi Keith and Phono-L members,, I also have a baby phonograph and wondering the interest and value. It is a Phon-0la, manufactured by the Phonola Manu. Co., Dayton, Ohio. Phonograph has wood cabinet and measurements are; 21 1/2" high, 12" wide and 13" deep. Keith, is this like the one you seen at the antique shop? I checked my Tim Gracyk's Victrola and 78 Journal, issue #6, Late summer of 1995 and on page 33 was a photo of a John McCormack label, not a phonograph. Anyone have more info on these Baby Phonographs? Joan Lehman _______________________________________________ Phono-l mailing list [email protected] http://t2.cwihosting.com/mailman/listinfo/phono-l_oldcrank.com From Keith.Carter Thu Nov 6 07:03:37 2003 From: Keith.Carter (Carter, Keith) Date: Sun Dec 24 13:10:25 2006 Subject: [Phono-L] The Baby Phono and other things Message-ID: <[email protected]> I also failed to mention that the same place the Baby Phono was at ( Bedford, PA) was a Victor XI with a shot reproducer and bad veneer selling for $750.00. I'm not sure where some people are getting their prices from. But wanted to also pass along something: My Lady friend was at a auction several weeks ago and won 4 Blue cylinders in perfect condition for $12.00. I told her that was'nt bad, then she told me they were all Christmas songs. Two were "Joy to the World", and "Silent Night" that I remember. The thing was she has no machine to play them on, SOOOO I am hoping I might see them under the tree for little ol me. keith From maxbud12 Thu Nov 6 14:39:40 2003 From: maxbud12 (Bruce Mercer) Date: Sun Dec 24 13:10:25 2006 Subject: [Phono-L] Veneer Removal Message-ID: <[email protected]> Take an old terrycloth towel and cut it into a piece a little larger than an old electric iron. Wet the cloth, wring it out somewhat, place on the area to be stripped of veneer and apply the iron (set on cotton temp). When it stops steaming try the scraper to the veneer, repeat as necessary. Foolproof. Bruce From rblemker Thu Nov 6 16:15:57 2003 From: rblemker (Bob Lemker) Date: Sun Dec 24 13:10:25 2006 Subject: [Phono-L] Veneer Removal In-Reply-To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Bruce, Thanks! That's exactly what I was looking for. I will try to remove the veneer on the best side, in tact, with the thought of reusing it on the top. Progress report to follow. Bob Take an old terrycloth towel and cut it into a piece a little larger than an old electric iron. Wet the cloth, wring it out somewhat, place on the area to be stripped of veneer and apply the iron (set on cotton temp). When it stops steaming try the scraper to the veneer, repeat as necessary. Foolproof. Bruce _______________________________________________ Phono-l mailing list [email protected] http://t2.cwihosting.com/mailman/listinfo/phono-l_oldcrank.com
